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NASB | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Now every athlete who [goes into training and] competes in the games is disciplined and exercises self-control in all things. They do it to win a crown that withers, but we [do it to receive] an imperishable [crown that cannot wither]. |
Subject: self control / spirit control |
Bible Note: Greetings back at ya, Steve, I really didn’t want to make an issue out of bestiality……I just used it as an illustration in addressing Johnny’s remark. However, I would like to respond to some of the points that you made. You said: “God's law is written on our minds and in our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33), not in the Torah.” Your statement doesn’t compute since “Torah” is the Hebrew word used in Jer 31:33 so your statement would actually read……”God’s Torah is written on our minds and in our hearts, not in the Torah.” It doesn't make sense. You said: “We have the gift of the Holy Spirit to help us to discern it (John 14:26).” We need discernment on a lot of the Torah in many cases…..i.e. how do we accurately apply it to our 21st century culture……e.g. “Do not kindle a fire on the Sabbath”. Some discern this as do not use your stove, microwave or car (internal combustion engine),etc. My personal take is that building a fire was “work” lo those 4000 years back and since the focus of the Sabbath is no work, it is not the fire per se which was a no no but the work involved in kindling same. As for the Holy Spirit’s role concerning the Torah……We have the gift of the Holy Spirit to enable us to do Torah (Eze 36:26-27). You said: “Jesus told his followers to follow his commands (John 14:21), not the commands the Father gave Moses.” Are you saying that the Father and the Son are on different wave lengths? The Father gave the commandments to “His people” through Moses. Are you one of “His people”? What are you going to do with Rev 12:17, 14:12 and I Jn 2:3-6; 3:21-24; 5:2-3; II Jn 1:4-6, all of which, with specificity tell us to obey the commandments of the Father. What did Y’shua mean when He said, “Do the will of My Father”? (Mt 1:21; 12:50). If Y’shua and the Father are one, the commandments they promote are identical or else they are a house divided. You said: “And we have the grace of God and the shed blood of Christ to cover us when we make a mistake in knowing or following them (see, for example, the New Testament).” I remember the “everybody makes mistakes” crowd in defending Bill Clinton’s adultery……locking your keys in the car is a mistake…adultery is intentional sin. There is no grace nor sacrifice for willful sin, including the blood of Y’shua. See I Jn 3:9; 5:18 and especially look at Heb 10:26-31 below and the comments following. HEB 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Notice…..The writer of Hebrews quotes Torah to make his point…..if Torah was just for “Old Testament” Hebrew types….why is he quoting it to make a New Testament point? Also, what he quoted was Dt 32:35 and 36 which is included in the “Song of Moses” of Rev 15:3. The “Song of Moses” is the Torah….see Dt 31:22 and 24. You said: “You can't expect Christians to welcome the spectre of works-righteousness or the heavy yoke of the Law.” That is not my expectation by a long shot, I know that Christians love their doctrines…..but keep in mind….I am not spewing my opinions…..I am just asking you to consider scripture which has been long overlooked by most Christians. Y’shua taught “do” and “teach” the commandments in the Torah (Mt 5:19)……not for brownie points but because it’s the law of the land in the Kingdom. As to “the heavy yoke of the Law”, it’s ironic that Ps 119 extols the magnificence of, exuberant joy in, and love of the Torah, yet most Christian’s see Torah as “a burden/a heavy yoke”. Christians will enthusiastically sing from Ps 119:105 “Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.” (The Amy Grant version, of course……sorry, couldn’t resist). In the context of Ps 119…..Christians are thereby singing, “Your Torah is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.” In song they profess Torah and in doctrine adamantly deny it. Thanks Steve…….Bub |