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NASB | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Now every athlete who [goes into training and] competes in the games is disciplined and exercises self-control in all things. They do it to win a crown that withers, but we [do it to receive] an imperishable [crown that cannot wither]. |
Subject: self control / spirit control |
Bible Note: You wrote: "Prior to this, as I believe it, Jews and Gentiles were following the Torah." Well, you have failed to show that conclusively. What evidence are you putting forth to demonstrate the validity of that claim? You wrote, in reference to Acts 15: "The question about whether they were to put the yoke of burden on them which they themselves could not keep is referring to the oral torah, additional commands which are not found in the Bible." That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. First of all, Jesus during his ministry made it clear that the mishna and other oral traditions were the commandments of men and not those of YHWH. Therefore, the issue of an aprocryphal "oral Torah" wouldn't have been an issue for either Jewish nor Gentile Christians. Secondly, Acts 15:5 makes it clear that it was the Law of MOSES that was the issue, not any additional teachings. Verse 9 and 11 juxtapose the grace of God and the faith of the Gentiles with the proposition of the Pharisees in verse 5. There is absolutely no evidence that any extra-biblical commands were the ones in question. You wrote: "These Gentiles are babys and are told 4 things they should start doing (these were probably big problems in the communities they came from). Then it says that Moses is taught in the synagogues each Shabbat. It was understood that they would learn more about the Moses, and the Torah at the Shabbat services." No, I think you have this wrong. Again, we have no indication that the imposition of the directives from Jerusalem is "Torah 101" to be followed by successive stages. This would not be in keeping with God's requirements for Jews to keep the entire Law. And notice that these command, which you correctly state as being elements of the Pentateuch, are referred to as a BURDEN here, just as in the preceding verses. And what James is saying here is that these impositions are not for the sake of purification, but rather because there is a Jewish presence in the larger cities from ages past. There is no indication that the Gentiles participated in the synagogue services, only that they existed where Gentile Christians were. And that is the reason the Council of Jerusalem directed the Gentile Christians as it did. You wrote: "To many people make the Torah and the covenant at Sinai synonymous, they are not, the Torah is eternal and an intity to itself." Demonstrate from the Bible that the Torah in its entirety had any implications for people outside the covenant people of Israel. The Law of Moses was given at the same time as the covenant was ratified. You wrote: "Abraham knew the Torah (Gen 26:5 where the word laws is actually the Hebrew word Torah)" I am aware that "Torah" means "law." However, it does not always mean "THE Law" (i.e. the Law given through Moses). You are arguing from the conclusion you have already made, rather than demonstrating that your conclusion is a valid one. You wrote: "To be honest, I think the trinity limits God, I do confine him to three but to many more." If you allow "many more," than you do not confine Him to three. It is the same word for breath and Spirit in Greek as well. You speak of the Holy Spirit as merely a manifestation of God, while the Scriptures attribute much more. Is Jesus just a "manifestation" of God, or is He God? What other "manifestations" would you include in this "polyinity"? --Joe! |