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1 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | IneffableUniverse | 46584 | ||
Blessings to you, too, Markarios. I know you meant well, however, I do not believe that the bible is the word of god. After much reading and then sitting through a week of lectures by a highly respected translator of ancient texts (Bart Ehrman, Prof. at Chappel Hill), I am now convinced that SO MANY EXTRA things have been added or CHANGED over the centuries, that what we now call the "bible" was really authored by men who were trying to justify the execution of their leader, and keep a movement going. There are countless cases where wording has been changed, verses added, and original meanings lost because we live in a different time period. So I think all those things you quoted, may sound like direct answers to you, but I view them as open to interpretation. Jesus said many profound and wise things. People still find comfort in them. That is good. But so did Buddha and Mohammed. Christians do not believe THEY TOO were sons of God, and neither do I. Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and many others over the ages were excellent and profound teachers, mentors, and philosophers. All could be called "prophets", I suppose. But God him/her/it-self? I don't think so. All depends on how you look at those verses....Nancy |
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2 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 46599 | ||
Hello Nancy While Makarios is pondering his usual capable response (and he is quite capable), I'll take a poke at this. Your conclusions from Dr. Ehrman's teaching appears to be more emotional than factual simply because of the capitalization you used for emphasis. The argument of what has/has not been altered over the centuries is simply not valid. Textual critics will acknowledge that greater than 90 percent (and actually closer to 95 percent) of the Bible is in agreement across all manuscripts, papyrii, fragments, etc. Most of the remainder is minor copyist error that does not affect doctrine. The final portions are words or sentences left out from one to the other. This final group is the only one where alterations could have occurred. You are correct that language changes so that meaning can be lost. We see that between the King James Bible and modern English translations. However, that is why we have those who study ancient languages--to get the intended meaning and state it properly. And lastly, how can you say Jesus said many profound and wise things when you do not believe the documents from which they come are factual? Steve |
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3 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | IneffableUniverse | 46602 | ||
I will quote Ehrman to you when I get time. I did it already once, but the entire thing got lost in cyberspace when I tried to preview it. Nuts! | ||||||