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1 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | IneffableUniverse | 45970 | ||
Dear John, Thank you for your input, however, I believe in a loving God. I don't quite understand why this loving God would single me out for his "wrath." The God of the Old Testament was continually destroying what He had created, and then making new "covenants" with his one or two followers left only to destroy them again if they even slightly fell from "the path." A sacred text that said god would do it again, would certainly be a useful tool for the political leaders of the day, wouldn't you say? TALK ABOUT A WAY TO KEEP ORDER!!! Jesus was an apocalyptisist, who, sincerely believing in the scriptures of his time, continued on to warn people of the end of the world, or at the least, the destruction of Jerusalem. Well, neither has happened, unless, of course you count the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 66 C.E. But it was rebuilt and has continued, as has the world for another 2000 years. I don't think God's wrath is the cause of destruction and catastrophe. PEOPLE, with free will (given by a loving god), make CHOICES to destroy and become "evil-doers." And natural disasters happen because our world is bound by the laws of physics. When a mountain top is too heavy, the top slides down and buries a town. Now, would a loving God be responsible for THAT? Therefore, I don't think it is necessary to "flee to Jesus." I believe that Jesus was a brilliant, young, charismatic man said some excellent things that people needed to hear in his time and continue to be comforted by 2000 years later. He may have "promised that whosoever comes to Him, He will not cast out." But, did Jesus really cast out ANYBODY??? He welcomed the social outcasts and physically challenged people who, considered to be "unclean", were not welcome by the temple priesthood. See, I look at all those bible passages a little differently. I see salvation with or without the teachings of Jesus. Do you think God would destroy the Eastern Hemisphere because it is composed mainly of non-Christians? That sounds pretty radical to me. IF there is a God and assuming it is loving, creative and forgiving, then I really doubt half the world's population will would be at risk for "it's" wrath. In love and compassion, Nancy |
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2 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 45985 | ||
Hello Nancy, Thank you for responding to my post. I had hoped that you would. Your post was quite good in that your objections were quite legitimate, being they come from a person who is not a professing christian. I'm not surprised that you think the Gospel to be mere foolishness. It seemed foolish to me once. 1Corinthians 1:18,19 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. You made some statements and asked some questions that I will attempt to answer from a biblical perspective. I don't insist that you believe any of what scripture says, but I hope you will at least consider it. Your first question was: When a mountain top is too heavy,the top slides down and buries a town. Now, would a loving God be responsible for THAT? Now, Dear Nancy, please keep in mind the fact that true christians believe that the Scripture is God's inerrant revelation to mankind of who He is, of how He relates to us and how we are to properly relate to Him. He is soveriegn! The Sovereignty of God. What do we mean by this expression? We mean the supremacy of God, the kingship of God, the god-hood of God. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that God is God. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the Most High, doing according to His will in the army of Heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, so that none can stay His hand or say unto Him what doest Thou? (Dan. 4:35). To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the Almighty, the Possessor of all power in Heaven and earth, so that none can defeat His counsels, thwart His purpose, or resist His will(Psa. 115:3). To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is "The Governor among the nations" (Psa. 22:28), setting up kingdoms, overthrowing empires, and determining the course of dynasties as pleaseth Him best. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the "Only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords" (1 Tim. 6:15). Such is the God of the Bible. (Arthur Pink) God is love, but God is also just. If Christ has not paid in His blood and suffering for your sins, then you must pay for them youself. If what the Bible says is true, and I believe it is, this is the God who, In all His terrible wrath, you will face. Without Christ you will have no one to cover your sins. The time for mercy will have pased and you will be cast into Hell and there you will be in torment for all eternity! From the bottomless pit you may scream for mercy or perhaps you will continue to curse Him and blame Him for your fate. But Nancy you will have no excuse. Even now you are being warned by God to repent of your rebellion against His rule. Surrender to Him and you will spend eternity in paradise. Won't you even ask Him to help you to understand? It is not with joy but out of pity and fear for your eternal destiny that I warn you. I have prayed that God will open your eyes and place within you a heart that will believe. May He grant my prayer and make it so. Your Friend, John |
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3 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | IneffableUniverse | 46014 | ||
John, would you be so kind as to tell me what terrible sins I have committed??? I am a registered nurse. I have administered to the sick and dying. I have shown great compassion for those in pain, physical and/or mental. I have not murdered anyone or broken any of man's laws (with the exception of a speeding ticket 12 years ago.), and I don't think I have broken any of God's laws. But I do not PRESUME to know what those are! The bible was written thousands of years ago in a different time and under far different circumstances. I find it contains much wisdom, a little history, and LOTS of mythology. I do NOT think a loving, compassionate, creative god-like entity would cast those of us who are also loving and compassionate but who may have chosen a differnt path, other than Christianity, into a hellish existence for eternity. Hell is right here on earth. I see it in the suffering, the wars, the famines, and all the other disasters that mankind either brought about upon himself, or was subjected to by "Mother Nature" and the laws of physics. I am a Unitaritan Universalist. I'm happy, have compassion for my fellow human beings and try to live a moral life. Why would god condemn me just because I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus, the man? IF God exists, I believe he/she/it accepts us ALL!........nancy | ||||||
4 | Where does Jesus say He is God? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 46031 | ||
Dear Nancy, It is painfully obvious from reading your comments that your original question was a ploy. Your reason for asking it was to gain an opportunity to denigrate and to undermine the faith of those who believe in the teachings of Scripture. Don't take my statement the wong way. I don't condemn you for it. Your desire may stem from an altuistic intent to open the eyes of people whom you view as deluded. Nevertheless you will be condemned by God for the sin of not believing in His only begotten Son. Your question has been more than adequately answered by those of us on the forum. But you demand it to be answered on your terms before you will accept it's viability. You disregard the fact that some of those who have replied have studied this book assiduously for many years. You on the other hand appear to have a passing familliarity with the text. Yet you presume to lord it over them with human reason. Nancy, you have a very high opinion of yourself and a low opinion of those who disagree. Where is your tolerance? You ranted against pushy christians who continually attempt to push literature in your face. Is this your attempt to get even. Where is your spirit of forgiveness? I make these points to show you how natural it is for us to sin. It's as natual as breathing. Even our good works are attended by pride and self-righteousness. This is true for christian and pagan alike. "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". Any christian that looks down his "spiritual nose" at a fellow christian or an unbeliever is being hypocritical. We sin when we claim for ourselves the smallest shred of righteousness. Our righteouness is filthy rags before a HOLY God! Instead we must praise Jesus, for by His sinless life, He has covered those who believe with His righteousness. People who consider themselves to be "good people" base their assesment on a comparrison to other people. But God's standard is perfection! Who can meet it? Not me. I may, humanly speaking, be better now then when I was a drugged out hippie and a drunk, but I still sin in thought , word and deed every day. No. My hope for perfection I have found in Christ. Rock of ages cleft for me Let me hide myself in thee Nothing in my hand I bring simply to thy cross I cling I hope you will take my poor words in the spirit of love and concern which is the way I feel toward you and all who have yet to come to the knowledge of Christ. May He bless you with that knowledge as He has blessed this unworthy sinner. I Remain Your Friend, John |
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