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1 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53340 | ||
Shalom Johnny; I love God, his Teachings, and Yeshua the Messiah with all my heart. My sole purpose is to do his will. But, I am not a Christian for the obvious reasons that you can see in my posts. I do not hold to standard Christian doctrine. You accuse me of loving Moses more than Yeshua, I do not understand how you got this when I may have only mentioned him once or twice. You may be confusing my love for the Torah with Moses. The Torah comes from God, not Moses. As Yeshua is God, then the Torah comes from him as well. You have stated that you only do what Yeshua says. He says that you are to teach all of the commands of Torah, even the least of them (Mat 5:17-19). You are correct, we cannot observe all of the commands, such as the stoning of one who lights a fire on Shabbat. Unfortunately there is no nation today that has the Torah as its body of law, until that day comes, we will not be able to live according to the Torah completely, but does this mean we throw the baby out with the bath water? If God creates something it must be good, and God created the Torah. How can observing commands given by the Supreme being himself be bad? How can a day of rest be considered evil? No once acusses Christians of being legalists or in bondage because they go to church on Sunday or celebrate Easter or Christmas, why are we considered legalists because we decide to rest on Saturday and celebrate the feasts that God designed? I also belong to the New Covenant of Yeshua as the covenant at Sinai is completed, obsolete and fading away. But remember what Jeremiah said about the New covenant in 31:31-33; "The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declares the LORD."This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. About the scriptures you posted; Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Agreed, no one is justified by the Torah but by the grace of God. Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Correct, the old covenant is passed away. Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. This is a quote from the scripture I posted above, The new covenant is not the same as the covenant at Sinai. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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2 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | jlpangilinan | 53348 | ||
Your not a Christian, so we have no problem. Your point of view is different than mine so be it. You post this "You have stated that you only do what Yeshua says. He says that you are to teach all of the commands of Torah, even the least of them (Mat 5:17-19)." If I do what Christ said so what is it I am not going to do? I think you contradict yourself here. What is it anyway, I did disobey when I going to love God with all my heart, soul, might and etrength did I break the law when I did this? this question I raised in my previous post and you ignore to answer. What is it in the law I did not disobey if I am going to love my niehbor as I love my self? As I said to you Christ fulfill the law in the deep meaning without contradiction and I will try to follow that. The law said, thou shall not kill but it also has the teaching tom kill anyone that do things in the day of sabbath. You said:"How can observing commands given by the Supreme being himself be bad? How can a day of rest be considered evil? No once acusses Christians of being legalists or in bondage because they go to church on Sunday or celebrate Easter or Christmas, why are we considered legalists because we decide to rest on Saturday and celebrate the feasts that God designed? I am not saying that the command of the supreme being is bad I did not mentioned this, you accused me here in the things that I never committed. You must hate paul because what he was written is the one i am using to discuss with you. Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. I am not the one saying this my friend, it is the apostle of Christ, are they crazy when they write it? If you decide to rest on saturday its okay, God rest on Sabbath day, then you should hate Christ because He decide to do works on Sabbath day. He heal sick He gathered corn to eat with His desciples on sabbath day. You said "You are correct, we cannot observe all of the commands, such as the stoning of one who lights a fire on Shabbat." If you cannot observe all in the law, meaning you leave the other undone, let my God Christ call you hypocrites! Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. God bless, Johnny |
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3 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53386 | ||
Shalom Johnny; You said; What is it anyway, I did disobey when I going to love God with all my heart, soul, might and etrength did I break the law when I did this? this question I raised in my previous post and you ignore to answer. The Torah shows us how to love God by keeping the Shabbat, the feasts, abstaining from certain foods, etc, your relationship with God is between you and him just as mine is between him and I. This is how I show love to God, I do not know how you do it, but I would be curious. You said; I am not saying that the command of the supreme being is bad I did not mentioned this, you accused me here in the things that I never committed. You must hate paul because what he was written is the one i am using to discuss with you. You are correct and I apologize for that, I am continually accused of this and made the statement without thinking. I guess a better question is if I do follow there Torah is there any harm in it? You said; Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. You also said; I am not the one saying this my friend, it is the apostle of Christ, are they crazy when they write it? I agree with this, the covenant at Sinai is replaced by the new covenant. You said; f you decide to rest on saturday its okay, God rest on Sabbath day, then you should hate Christ because He decide to do works on Sabbath day. He heal sick He gathered corn to eat with His desciples on sabbath day. Yeshua never broke the Shabbat command, he simply violated the additional laws that the Pharisees added to the Shabbat, these are what he had a problem with. You must recognize that Yeshua followed the Torah perfectly, as to be without sin (especially before the cross) meant that you did the Torah perfectly, as sin in defined by the Torah. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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4 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | jlpangilinan | 53442 | ||
Observe you tora my friend, and make sure that you observe it completely so My God will not call you hypocryte! I am a Christian and I am not justified by law but by Christ if you are not beieved it is you problem. Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. If you tora has been faultless, we dont need Christ to save our sins. I am a Christian and your not you are not going to accept the teaching of Christian! so continue what you are doing it up to you. I am tired of it! God bless, Johnny |
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