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1 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | John Reformed | 54217 | ||
Dear Bub, What can I say? From a Christian point of view, you are lost and without Christ. But I do not dispair for you. Perhaps God in His providence has led you here for the purpose of exposing you to the truth. True christianity differs from every other religion in many ways. One of those ways is that we rely solely on our faith in Christ. Rom 8:28-32 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? If you do not believe this, then you must trust in your own works. Your religion seems strange and new. What is it's history? John |
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2 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54309 | ||
Dear John...... I will attempt to explain my strange and new religion for you, I admit, it’s pretty wild and way out there. It began a long, long time ago in a far off land. The creator of the universe, I will call Him “the LORD” to keep the dialogue uncomplicated, sought to have fellowship with His creation. He did so by informing certain men as to who He is and what His will was for His creation. He told many of these priviledged men to write down what He had to say. I am privy to these writings and have built my strange and new religion upon them. The LORD was looking for a enclave of his creation to follow the wisdom of these writings and be a light, an example, for the rest of the nations, in hopes that they too would choose to join up with his chosen people…..He called these people “Israel” meaning "God prevails". Unfortunately, most of this group, although they got off to a good start chose to do what was right in their own eyes as opposed to following what was right in the eyes of the LORD….time doesn’t allow for the sordid details. As it appeared that these people needed a lot more assistance, instead of giving up on them, the LORD sent His Son to Israel to get them back on track…..instead of soley having the writings which the LORD prescribed, they would have a flesh and blood teacher to personally guide them back to the correct path……the Son’s name was Y’shua, an angel of the LORD told His mother to give Him that name. He told Israel to “repent”, to turn around and rethink things and make the necessary adjustments in accordance with the teachings of the LORD. He taught that this community of excellence, He called it a Kingdom, that the LORD originally had in His mind, would be established, with them or without them, and it would last for eternity……He said that everyone who did the will of His Father, i.e. followed the LORD’s teachings instead of doing what was right in their own eyes, was going to be included…….those who opted out would experience an unpleasant future. These teachings and warnings were accepted by some and rejected by others……some chose to remain in their comfort zone and follow the so called Jewish religious elite of the day or the popular Hellenistic secular way of life. As Y’shua was a threat to the status quo, the religious and secular elite had to dispose of Him, which He knew would happen. However, he arose from the grave as an affirmation to His followers……with many other implications that I will not get into at this point…..they’re pretty heavy. Y’shua’s apostles and His disciples and the first generation believers (reformed Israel)continued to reject the corrupt Jewish religious establishment and continued the “reformation” which Y’shua initiated. They were seen as a breakaway Jewish sect known as “the Way” or the “Nazarene sect” yet they still congregated at the Temple and synagogues with unreformed Israel. They were indeed a light to unreformed Israel as well as to the gentiles, and many chose to join this renewal of getting back to the teachings of the LORD and away from the teachings of men. Many years later some of them wrote down the history of their movement. There were also communiqués among each other and to the outlying communities which have been preserved. Within a short time, although the “religion” had grown by leaps and bounds it also, in many cases, reverted back to corruption…..Israel was up to its old tricks again.....so much so that the LORD gave orders to Y’shua that He needed to reveal even more to His people……He told John, one of His apostles, to write it down……He told Him to write letters to seven communities…….five of them were already way off base after only about fifty years, only two in seven remained faithful. This is the only record of anyone having been told by the LORD to write something in the post Y’shua period. That is basically the history of this “strange and new” religion, simplistically stated. You may be able to get a more comprehensive copy of the teachings of the LORD and the historical accounts of Y’shua at your local “strange and new” religion book store. continued……please see next post |
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3 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | stjones | 54332 | ||
Greetings again, Bub; You said "As it appeared that these people needed a lot more assistance, instead of giving up on them, the LORD sent His Son to Israel to get them back on track....instead of soley having the writings which the LORD prescribed, they would have a flesh and blood teacher to personally guide them back to the correct path". I once read an interview with the Dalai Lama who said much the same thing. Nothing could be further from the truth. Such views completely miss the point of who Jesus is, what his earthly ministry was, or what his death and resurrection accomplished. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." (John 3:16-17) Please note that his mission field was the world, not Israel. Please note that Jesus came to save the world himself, not to teach the Israelites or anyone else how to save themselves by adherence to the Law. Personal note: I hope you don't think I'm sitting here like a big spider, ready to pounce when you shake my web. It's just that sometimes as I scan the home page, I come across a statement that is just too outrageous to let pass. I probably shouldn't let myself get so worked up. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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4 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54352 | ||
Steve, You definitely need a chill pill.........what is the "great commission"? And again (3rd time).......what is the word "gospel" referring to in Heb 4:2 and 6? Thanks......Bub |
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5 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | stjones | 54362 | ||
Hi, Bub; "Gospel" refers to The good news of God's grace - attainable in the OT by obedience to the Law and attainable in the NT and today by faith in Christ. But I give up. If you continue to ignore the clear warnings in Hebrews 6 and 10 to not abandon Christ and return to hope for salvation in the Law, what's the point of debating a single word? A passage here and a passage there do not trump the message of grace that permeates the entire New Testament. The Law cannot be kept today. Period. Not by anybody. If you cling to the Law, you are dead in your sins because you cannot keep the entire Law and you cannot atone for your sins as the Law demands. The Torah did not say to have faith in Christ; it said to sacrifice animals, grain, and drink in specific ways in a carefully prescribed setting. That leaves you on the hook for sacrifices you cannot make and it makes Jesus' death on the cross useless. And that is the very offense the writer of Hebrews was talking about in chapters 6 and 10. No thanks. I'll take grace. I hope you do too. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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6 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Hank | 54372 | ||
Steve, Excellent Post! If we seek justification by the the Law, we may as well tear down the cross and all it represents, including Him who bled and died there, and pretend it never happened. --Hank | ||||||
7 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | stjones | 54373 | ||
Thanks, Hank; When I was visiting the Jews for Jesus site, I read about the the decision of the Jews after 70 A.D. to substitute prayer for sacrifices. It had always puzzled me how you could have modern-day Jews ranging from strict Orthodox to atheists. I guess when you start discarding parts of the Scripture, there's no fixed place to stop. And therein lies a cautionary tale for the modern Christian church.... Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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