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1 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53994 | ||
Dear Tim…… I totally concur with what you had to say………my battle is with the popular view that we do not have to live Torah………except for the parts we like…..we get to choose what’s in and what’s out. I will focus my point on only one element, the Sabbath commandment, for the purpose of keeping the discourse simple, for one thing, and because it is the most glaring example of picking and choosing……who decided that the Sabbath is optional? You said we obey because we are saved…….this is absolutely the truth……but the common Christian mantra is that we don’t have to keep the Sabbath because we’re saved as opposed to saying, and practicing, we keep the Sabbath because we’re saved. Do we keep the Sabbath to be saved or justified? NO!!!!!!! That would be false motivation……I think Y’shua was touching on this when He said, “you are neither hot nor cold”. In other words, if you’re not obeying with enthusiastic whole heartedness, be real and don’t do it at all……that is a more honest position than half heartedly going through the motions. This, I also think, is what was going on when the LORD said, “I hate your Sabbaths…..”. If you are doing any commandment on a superficial level forget it…….it is not righteousness, it does not please the LORD. If one enthusiastically loves the LORD and acknowledges His words with enthusiasm…..he will keep the commandments with enthusiasm from the heart. We don’t do them to get brownie points or as fire insurance……we do them because “Father knows best”. Israel had a huge problem with this……they were constantly doing what was right in their own eyes (I see Christians as doing the same with the Sabbath, xmas and easter, etc….these are Roman catholic teachings, not the LORD’s…..the reformation stopped short of total reform, but that’s another tangent.) ……there was no problem with the Old Covenant or the Torah (teachings), that would indicate that the LORD messed up and had to rethink things. The problem was people…….they had to change…..and the LORD most graciously, through the Messiah and the Holy Spirit’s ministry of the New Covenant gave them that opportunity. Does the New Covenant negate any of the teachings……NO. The teachings (Torah) are the same…..we are different. Are we on the same page? Thank you for jumping in with the voice of reason……this discussion has gone off on wild unfruitful tangents. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb……Bub P.S. I just read your post on the ending of Mark…..this is evidence, to me, that the NT was not considered “Holy Scripture”…….the NT writings were not meticulously preserved and recopied, as were the OT…….as copies were made it seems someone felt free to add on to Mark, who knows who?…..who knows how much editing went on as all of these NT documents were passed around?…..without the original documents we have no clue…..but we know for sure from Mark that it happened, we just don’t know where and how much. I thank the LORD that He specifically warned not to mess with the Revelation, I can view that with full confidence…..I’m sure it was honored as prophesy, and not a communiqué or commentary, and thereby preserved with integrity. |
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2 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | John Reformed | 54024 | ||
New Testament is not Scripture? You wrote: I just read your post on the ending of Mark…..this is evidence, to me, that the NT was not considered “Holy Scripture”… |
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3 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54181 | ||
Dear John..... All writing is scripture....I'm writing scripture as I type, yet hardly "Holy Scripture"......"Holy Scripture" is "thus saith the LORD" writings.......that which Timothy knew from infancy. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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4 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | srbaegon | 54188 | ||
Hello Bub Just because the same word is used for "writing" and "scripture" (at least in Greek; I'm assuming for Hebrew) does not mean all writing is scripture. "Scripture" carries the implied qualifier of "Holy." It's something different than just words on a page. Steve |
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5 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54191 | ||
Hi Steve, It would depend on the context......the point is what did first generation Jewish believers, including Paul et. al. consider "scripture"? THERE WAS NO NEW TESTAMENT! Also, you didn't answer my question from Wednesday, I think it was......You said, "Heb 10:26-29 is addressing “Jews who have the Gospel, and are now wavering…on the verge of abandoning Jesus for the Law.” My question was: "Is that the same as the “Gospel” which is mentioned in Heb 4:2 and 4:6? Singing the Song of Moses and the song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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6 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | srbaegon | 54193 | ||
Hello Bub We are on the same page concerning "scripture." I believe Steve Jones was the person with whom you were discussing Heb 10. Steve |
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