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1 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53407 | ||
Shalom John. You said; To answer your question concerning anathma: Paul says in Gal 1:8,9 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" "accursed is the translation of the greek word "anathema". I was somewhat surprised at your ignorance of this, as this is commonly known passage by those who study Pauline doctrine. Your first assumption is that the gospel which you have is the correct one (which I am sure you do :-), which would then make mine anethema and therefore accursed. But, I believe that my gospel is the Gospel which Paul spoke of, if I am correct then your gospel is anethema and you are accursed. (I am not saying this, but it is the conclusion to your argument if I am correct) I know that you have all of the scriptures backing up your claims that you are correct, but so do I as well as the Mormons, JW’s, Jews, Muslims, etc. You know that you are correct. That is fine, I believe that I am correct. Our only hope is to look at the scriptures objectively and see what they say and discuss them, who knows maybe you or I will find a passage that does not fit our theology and will have to revise it. I have done this many times before and have no probable throwing out a doctrine to be false. I was once a Christian just like you, I believed in all the doctrines you do. But I looked at the scriptures objectively and found something different. About Translations. Many Christians compare translations in order to look at them objecdtively. The only problem is they only look at translations that are written by other Christians. Have you ever compared the Old Testament with a Jewish translations, they have translation scholars as well and it is there language. What would you do if you found a passage that reads differently? For example. Isaiah 9:6 according to the Christian translations is in the future tense implying the coming Messiah. The Jewish text has it in the past tense, someone that was born previous to Isaiah. Which is correct? Will you go with the Christian translators because they are Christians? Or would you entertain that they are wrong? I base this simple claim on the fact that when you read the Hebrew text you can see what is really said. As an example, why is one Hebrew word – nephesh translated at least 30 different ways, depending on the translation, in the Old Testament, it would make more sense to me to translate one Hebrew word with the same English word all the time. In Gen 2.7 it says that man became a living soul according the KJV, it also says in Gen 1:26 that the animals are living creatures. From this we can gather that men have souls and animals are just creatures. But, the Hebrew for both is identical, nephesh Chayah – living souls, yes animals have a soul as well according to the Hebrew text, but the translators don’t like that idea so they translate them differently. John, I thank you for the great discussions as well as with everyone else. I know that my beliefs are different but I hope that does not cause a wall to go up between us. In every way possible I have attempted to show through the Old and New Testaments why I believe what I do and have showed how I understand the scriptures, even though my beliefs are different I will be on vacation for the next week and will miss these discussions, Shalom Simchat Torah |
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2 | What in the Bible made you a non-christi | 1 Cor 9:25 | John Reformed | 53410 | ||
Dear Simchat, I'll be brief. You continually make statements that are unsupportable! You Said: "I know that you have all of the scriptures backing up your claims that you are correct, but so do I as well as the Mormons, JW’s, Jews, Muslims, etc." This is abject nonsense. Having been a professing christian yourself you must be well aware of the arguements that refute the false teaching of the cults. Christian apologetics have successfully addressed these errors throughout church history. Again you said: " I was once a Christian just like you, I believed in all the doctrines you do. But I looked at the scriptures objectively and found something different. Do tell! What did you find that promted you to discard christianity? What was the "revelation" that caused you to embrace this new docrtine? John |
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3 | What in the Bible made you a non-christi | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53413 | ||
Shalom John, Taking a break from packing :-). I was born and raised in the Lutheran church, my father was a minister. Unlike other horror stories you hear about Pastors kids, I loved my childhood and our church. Some of my fondest memories growing up was helping my dad write his sermons. I never missed a service, taught Sunday school at the age of 15, even entertained ideas of becoming a minister. When I met my wife she was attending an Assembly of God chuch and I started going with her. I found that they believed things differently than I did, though I knew church doctrine very well, I did not know the Bible or the, why’s, to what I believed. Since I did not know which doctrines were correct, I started studying the Bible earnestly, not to prove that the Lutherans were right (I believe that when you set out to prove a doctrine, you will succeed), but to find the truth in these. This study lasted for over five years of very serious searching and studying. Through this study, I started noticing a lot of similarities between the Old and New Testaments. Whenever came across one of these similarities I wrote it down. After 5 years, I had a very large list of similarities and decided it was time to study them. After a year of studying these I discovered that Jesus taught and lived Torah and that his disciples did as well, I found that the Torah is Eternal, for all of God’s people. At this point, I could believed that I must have made an error in my studies because no one does Torah except for the Jews. I began searching for the error but I could not find one. About a year later, Jewish friend of mine invited me to the Synagogue to a learn Hebrew class, he knew that I was searching out the Hebrew language. While there, one of the synagogue members approached me, covertly and invited me to their messianic group. You would be surprised how many believers of Yeshua there are in the synagogues, they are waiting for the right time to make themselves known. To soon and they will be kicked out, There Rabbi was when it was found that he started sounding messianic. At this group of Messianics I found out that there was a large number of Jews and gentiles living according to Torah and the movement is growing larger by the day. Now I knew that what I found in the bible was true. That is my story in a nutshell :-) Shalom Simchat Torah |
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