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NASB | John 5:19 ¶ Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 5:19 ¶ So Jesus answered them by saying, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself [of His own accord], unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever things the Father does, the Son [in His turn] also does in the same way. |
Subject: First Century Second Coming? |
Bible Note: Greetings Xerxes! You wrote: "was one of seven rulers (Julius, Antony, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Nero), one of which was slain (Julius), that Vespasian and Titus came to make war on Israel, speaking with the authority of Caesar while not being Caesar, and all this in accordance with Rev. 13?" Here is another example of the problems with numbering systems. Julius Caesar was never Emperor, so most don't count him in the list of possible matches for Rev. 13 and 17. Anthony was never Emperor, so I'm not sure why you included him in the list. The list of actual Emperors is: 1) Augustus: 27 b.c to 14 a.d. 2) Tiberius: 14 to 37 a.d. 3) Caligula: 37 to 41 a.d. 4) Claudius: 41 to 54 a.d. 5) Nero: 54 to 68 a.d. 6) Galba: 68 to 69 a.d. 7) Otho: 69 a.d. 8) Vitellius: 69 a.d. 9) Vespasian: 69 to 79 a.d. 10) Titus Flavius: 79 to 81 a.d. 11) Domitian: 81 to 96 a.d. One thing I noticed in your post is that you said Vespasian and Titus acted with the authority of Caesar, but they were not Caesar. Yet, they were! :-) The problem with trying to read these past Emperors into Rev. 13 and 17 is that none of them make complete sense. There are many problems. 1) Where do you start? 2) When did John write? If you start with Julius, then the five who have died would go up to Claudius, with Nero being the one who is. Yet, the best evidence is that John wrote during the reign of Domitian, well past 70 a.d. If you start with Augustus, the 7th and 8th rulers are of no historical consequence. Either way, the Emperor ruling during the fall of Jerusalem would be either the 9th or 10th emperor, which does not fit the supposed scheme. The best view seems to be that these passages are referring to yet future rulers. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |