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1 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131758 | ||
Although democracy may be the pinnacle of man's ability to govern himself, it falls far short of God's rule. When God acquiesced to give Israel a king, God still anointed him via his prophet. Now days, in fact since God removed Zedekiah, God has stopped even doing that! Anyone elected today anywhere is not even his best choice. I say that man's rule has not progressed much, this being the case. The real king we look to, born of King David, has taken his seat and will act at the appointed time to solve all the mismanagement. We must exercise faith that this is true. | ||||||
2 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 131763 | ||
alienresident Aren’t you being a little presumptuous? None of these men are God’s choice. How do you know that? Perhaps they are exactly what God wants for a nation that has so much yet is so spiritually dead. You do a lot of speaking for God and deciding what is right and what is wrong and that troubles me. We live in a nation where we have a voice in who will be our president. It is every Christians responsibility to seek God for direction to make that choice. Now where is it written “stick thy head in the sand.” EdB |
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3 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131769 | ||
You said: "Perhaps they are exactly what God wants for a nation that has so much yet is so spiritually dead." Perhaps not. Those who believe in predestination have a similar problem -always trying to find the "silver lining" in a plane crash, tornado, etc. If it's God's will there must be beauty and wisdom in this? You also said: "You do a lot of speaking for God and deciding what is right and what is wrong and that troubles me." Paul said: "But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil." It troubles me when professed Christians can't decide right from wrong. How can we expect others to look to Christ as a better choice? |
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4 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 131808 | ||
alienresident You said, "Those who believe in predestination have a similar problem -always trying to find the "silver lining" in a plane crash, tornado, etc. If it's God's will there must be beauty and wisdom in this?" First I don't believe in predestination as such but I do believe in the That God will, will be done. I also believe And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28 (NKJV) I hope you don't think your stick your head in the sand attitude is solid food because besides the fact you have lousy theology the adversary has convinced you to sit on the sidelines of life. EdB |
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5 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131953 | ||
Like my brother Paul, I am not ashamed of the good news and have not held back from telling people all the things that are profitable for them. I treasure my ministry and intend to fully accomplish it. Those that know me would hardly say that my 'head is in the sand.' | ||||||
6 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 131955 | ||
Alien I really don't know anything more about you than what I read here in the forum. You may be the greatest evangelist in the world, but unless your letting your voice be heard by your vote there is one instance where you do in fact stick your head in the sand. And that is a fact! EdB |
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7 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131960 | ||
How did Christianity go from being such an unpopular sect in the first century to such a mainstream collection of sects in the 21st century? Could it be that changes to fundamental teachings have occurred under the weight of criticism and persecution by the majority? The heads were stuck long ago so that all those that follow in the steps of these blind guides do not see the folly in pledging allegiance to nations that God will soon destroy. Will any nation remain after Armaggedon? Where will God draw the line in judging the nations - with the rulers only or will he hold those that supported them in ungodly acts accountable as well? Cannot a Christian simply obey whomever is in authority as elected by the people that do not know God, as long as not asked to disobey God? As long as he has his head and heart grounded in God's word, will he not avoid being part of the world while showing proper respect for authority? Even if true, the slanderous statements made by professed Christians against some elected officials is wrong according to Paul. Some of these are even known to be their "Christian brothers." Unlike Christianity, it just gets so ugly! |
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8 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 131961 | ||
Wait one minute there is a great distance between exercising liberty by casting a vote and campaigning either positively or negatively for a person. In one your fulfilling your obligation as a citizen the other you getting actively involved in the campaign process which may or may not be edifying for a Christian. You keep going back to the past sins and using this in you argument. Yes United States was founded by men and in some cases some of these men didn’t always act in a Christian manner. Does that make the whole process wrong? I think not. God had charged each of us to stand before him and to give an account. What sins may have been committed in the past by others are not charged to our account. We are to be a light and salt unto this world therefore we need to call sin, sin and righteousness, righteousness. We are given a voice both physically and in our government. Both of our voices should be heard. Look at John the Baptist he called sin, sin. Look at Paul he called sin, sin and in doing so Paul used the political process to preserve his life and carry his message to Rome. EdB |
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9 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131962 | ||
"Wait one minute there is a great distance between exercising liberty by casting a vote and campaigning either positively or negatively for a person. In one your fulfilling your obligation as a citizen the other you getting actively involved in the campaign process which may or may not be edifying for a Christian." So you feel that voting is alright, but campaigning is not. Do you feel that running for office to effect political change is acceptable? Paul's use of the "political process" (namely judicail system) to carry his message is certainly noteworthy, but I fail to see the connection to our discussion. This is merely one aspect of the benefits of government - less anarchy! Christians today have frequently used the judicial process to further the good news, but did not prevail in every instance. Did they stop evangelizing? Methods may have been modified in order to prove "cautious as a serpent, yet innocent as doves," but obedience to God's command to preach was heeded. Like, Jesus' cousin John, Christians do not hold back from exposing sin, even when it involves high officials. They spoke out against Hitler as well as other countries' leaders in spite of the harsh consequences. None of this required voting. Rather their neutral stance gave them freedom of speech. |
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10 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 131965 | ||
Alien You said, "None of this required voting. Rather their neutral stance gave them freedom of speech." Actually it did, they cast a silent vote against those that they opposed. You asked do if I felt voting was okay but not campaigning. In campaigning I do believe we become part of that persons position and personally I don't want to support a person that may betray a Christian principal I hold dear. As to holding office. I feel as a citizen we can run for office but I don't think we should play upon our Christianity but rather the issues as we see them. I think we have to be very very careful that we don’t let it lead us into a position of compromise, which I believe occurs in many, many cases. Good men find themselves forced between two bad decisions and therefore outside of God’s will. You said, “Paul's use of the "political process" (namely judicail system) to carry his message is certainly noteworthy, but I fail to see the connection to our discussion. This is merely one aspect of the benefits of government - less anarchy!” This is directly connected to our discussion. We are both in agreement that Paul used the political process to promote the word of God. You said it was a mere aspect of the benefits of government just as is voting a benefit of our form of government. Why shouldn’t we take advantage of what is offered us? This country was formed on a one person one vote type of government whether we like it or not. Personally I prefer it no other way. And since God has placed us under this particular governmental style should we say this is wrong and therefore I refuse to take my rightful position in that Government? I think not. I think we should take advantage of this aspect and benefit of our government and fulfill our obligation to vote. To Let our voice be heard. EdB |
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11 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 131974 | ||
You said: "Actually it did, they cast a silent vote against those that they opposed." I almost wrote the same thing! My non-vote is a vote of "no confidence." You also state: "And since God has placed us under this particular governmental style should we say this is wrong and therefore I refuse to take my rightful position in that Government?" Remember, what holds true now or in one country must hold true later and in any country. Christians have been faced with the death for failure to purchase a political card in some third world nations undergoing civil war. I assure you that neither party best represented Bible teachings and both had innocent blood all over themselves. It's easy to look at things from an American perspective and conclude that God must be using this government. I keep reminding myself that Satan is the ruler of this world. |
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12 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 132003 | ||
alien Then your saying you do vote. You just don't by casting a ballot. Therefore your stand that it's against Christian principals doesn't hold true. My friend I think your very confused, I think you take a lot for granted, and I think more than any thing you should be thankful you live in America. I'm afraid with your attitude you wouldn't have lasted long in some other countries and your death wouldn't have been because of your Christianity but rather your apathy. EdB |
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13 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 132035 | ||
Like Paul, my "vote" is for God's government. While I appreciate the opinions you are sharing, ultimately it is what God "thinks" and not what you think that concerns me. His son said that if we're faithful in the least things, we will be faithful in much. (Luke 16:10) I am hardly apathetic about my allegiance to God, nor by duty to respect the authorities he has allowed to exist. But I am constantly mindful to only give Caesar what is Caesar's. Misguided zeal is at best futile, but more often, pits individuals against God - like Saul. I know you would never intend to harm one of your Christian brothers, but under the cloak of nationalism, party loyalty, etc., this is usually the result. Will God view such actions as the unfortunate consequence of his requirements? Is there injustice with God? I don't have to tell you the answer. Imagine what the world would be like if everyone alive thought like Paul. Even though they don't now, one day that will be the case. Don't fear those who can kill the body, but be in fear of the One that can destroy body and soul forever. The resurrection was Paul's hope and sure anchor of his faith. For what should a Christians's be willing to give his life? To keep his integrity to God and prove Satan a liar, or to settle a human conflict? If we live, we live for God, and if we die, we die for God - we belong to God! Voting may be a right in the country, but where does it lead a Christian when he exercises it? Has it solved the problems that God promises He will solve? Or, has it lead to divisions among brothers? I would love for you to hear my voice on this topic and me to hear your's. This medium for discussion makes it difficult to learn of your audience's feelings. I'm far from apathetic when it comes to this or any Bible topic, and I'm not unsympathetic toward you or anyone that votes - it's understandable. |
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14 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 132080 | ||
alienresident Let me ask you one question? Do you see anyone from a communist country joining this discussion?. Why? Let me answer, because they aren't allowed too. That is the difference between living in a free country and one not free. One of the things that is instrumental to insuring our freedom is the right to vote. If we abdicate that right eventually we also abdicate our freedom. The political process in America is not prefect in fact it is a long way from perfect but it still the best in existence today. I will be nice to one day live in with a perfect government but until that day comes we are still to live in this world. Jesus said he did not come to take us out of this world but to make us salt and light to this world. How do we do this? Say everything is all wrong and go sit in the corner and saying some day you’ll see. Or do we do what we can to bring a higher standard to this world. Perhaps we need to vote for men that campaign on a higher standard, live to a higher standard. On every ballot there is a line for write ins. Why not write in the name of a someone that in you opinion can raise us to next level. You so concerned that if you vote you some how make yourself responsible for the actions of that elected person. That is nonsense. That is like saying that if you voted for a class president in school and that person later raped a cheer leader that you are responsible. I many times vote choosing the lesser of two evils. Does that make me happy not in the least. But I also know that many times a better man did not run because too many people like you that would support him do not vote therefore he had no chance to win. A non vote is the same thing as lowering the standard for politician. If people with morals and Christian consciences do not vote then people that are without Christian mores will become the leaders of this nation. I can remember a time if a there was even a hint of sexual indiscretion in a candidates life he had no chance of election. Today the picture is quite different. Why? Because Christians refuse to stand up and be counted. You said you don’t care what I say you just care what God says. So me where God says don’t vote. Don’t be salt and light to this world. Don’t get involved in things where you can effect the outcome between right and wrong. I'm surprised feeling the way you do you haven't moved to a country with a dictator then you wouldn't even have involve yourself in discussions if you should vote or not. EdB |
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15 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | alienresident | 132086 | ||
"Jesus said he did not come to take us out of this world but to make us salt and light to this world." Jesus next statement is "they are no part of the world, just as I am." What does this mean? Can we look to the nation with the largest weapons arsenal or the greatest wealth and personal freedoms for salvation, or is that spiritual adultery? It was for Israel. Why not for the Christian? If I filled out the write-in line on a ballot, it would read "Come Lord Jesus." Now tell me what difference that would make. Will he come any faster? Will I affect the outcome of the election? My non-vote allows me to remain separate from the world, serving one Master, but does not impact my subjection to Caesar. All Christian requirements are met. |
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16 | Denounce militant Islam? | Matt 5:44 | EdB | 132091 | ||
alienresident As I have said in the past you appear to be confused and convinced that apathy and ignoring things you can effect are what God wants you to do. Evidently there is nothing anyone can do to help you so I see no point in continuing this discussion. My prayers go with you EdB |
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