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NASB | Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 13:8 All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice]. |
Bible Question:
Dear Tim, It ssems as if both of us are doing an injustice to one anothers doctrines. I apologize, if indeed, I have mis-represented the arminian position on free-will. I simply assumed that, if a unregenerate person was capable of understanding and recieving the gospel, that the desire to do so must, of a necessity, spring from his heart. If we are truly in agreement regarding the depraved condition of the natural man (dead in sin and a mind that is in enmity against God), where do you say the desire for Christ comes from? John |
Bible Answer: Greetings John! I'm not so concerned about the Arminian position, since, as with Calvinism, there really isn't one position. ;-) I am more concerned that my position is reflected accurately! I know, it's selfish! :-) It seems to me that the point we differ on here is what depravity does and does not do to human choice. I believe that man is born depraved, as a result of the fall. Even if a man could (which is not possible) avoid ever commiting a single act of sin, he would still deserve hell. I also believe that man is born with a corrupted nature. Man is born rebellious and resistent to God. If left in this condition, no one would or could seek God. However, I also believe that Christ draws all men and that His Spirit convicts the world of sin. But, I do not believe that depravity means that man can no longer make moral decisions. He can still respond to God. Take for example, Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. They hid from God as a result of their sin. God calls out to them (seeking them - they did not seek God) and Adam answered. Later, Cain responded to God. So, where we differ is that I don't see that it is impossible for man to respond to God if God first seeks and draws man. So, it goes back to the extent of the atonement again! :-) You see Christ dying only for some and only drawing some. I see Christ dying for all and drawing all. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |