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NASB | Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 13:8 All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice]. |
Subject: Our name erased or added to Book of Life |
Bible Note: Greetings John! Good morning my friend! Allow me to touch upon your points very quickly. I do want to bring the 'all' part to a close because we are going in circles, but you do raise a different issue with your other point. 1) All: The three examples you cite, to me, still do not proof your point. If Scripture says that Jesus went through all of Galilee, I believe He did. If Scripture says that the news spread through all Syria and that they brought all of those who were ill, then I believe it. If Scripture says that all things are possible to him who belives, then I believe it. I don't take the approach that I must first find a statement in Scripture reasonable before I will believe it! Now, I do believe that 'all' can be modified or limited by other words. For example: Acts 5:16 - "Crowds gathered also from the towns around Jerusalem, bringing their sick and those tormented by evil spirits, and all of them were healed." Here, 'all' only includes those sick and possessed who were actually brought to Jesus. Rom. 6:3 - "Or don?t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" Here, 'all', includes only those who were baptized in Christ Jesus. But, if 'all' is not modified, then it means 'all'. If you look 'pas' up in a Greek dictionary, you will not find a single listing for the meaning 'some'! ;-) Aside from the atonement verses, I am actually quite shocked that you advocate changing the meaning of 'all' if one finds it uncrediable. What is someone objects that they do not find it credible that 'all' have actually sinned (Rom. 3:23 and 5:12)? Or, what if someone doesn't find it credible that God really works in all things (Rom. 8:28)? Or, what if someone doesn't believe that 'all' things actually come from God (1 Cor. 8:6)? Arguing that 'all' is modified by the text is one thing, but rejecting 'all' because one does not find it credible is another! 2) Freewillism: Allow me to ask you a question. I know from previous posts that you believe that Christians can still commit acts of sin (as do I). When you sin, do you sin because you willed to or because God willed you to sin? Now, surely, you will not argue that God willed you to sin. If you do, then you make God the direct cause of a violation of His commands. Therefore, you did something that was against God's will for you when you committed an act of sin. Does that mean that God is powerless? Does that mean that you are in control of your eternal destiny? Have you wrested the right of God to judge out of His impotent hands? The answer is of course, no! The belief in the ability of man to choose certain things does not mean that God is impotent. It simply means that God has given us the ability to choose certain things. There are somethings that I can't choose. I can't choose where I am to be born! ;-) I can't choose to have the talent of Michael Jordan! But, I can choose what job I will work. I can choose where I will live. I can choose which congregation I will attend. I can choose to obey or disobey God. Now, what does Scripture say about this radical concept that man can accept or receive the gift of salvation? Rom. 5:17 - "For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God?s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ." Receive - Present, Active, Participle. The active voice means that the subject is doing the action. I know I have posted other verses on this issue before. Well, this is getting long, so I'll cease and desist now! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |