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NASB | Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 13:8 All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice]. |
Subject: Our name erased or added to Book of Life |
Bible Note: Greetings John! So, are we now to toss out what Scripture actually says because we don't believe it is credible or likely? :-( Do you see how your argument is going my friend? You are in essence saying, "I don't believe that 'all' the people really did come out, even though the text says they did, so 'all' must only mean 'some'!" Would you buy this kind of an argument from me? ;-) As far as the 'His sheep' phrase is concerned, I don't see any relevance or tie to the verse you originally quoted. My orginal question was, 'Where is there a single verse which says that Christ either did not die for all, or that He only died for some'. Your response was to use a verse which spoke of saving 'His people' from their sins. Yet, 'His people' is used throughout the NT (and OT) as a reference to Israel. Thus, 'His people' is not synonymous with 'the elect'. I asked if you could provide Scriptural evidence to back up your contention that 'His people' is the same group as 'His sheep'. Evidence would have to be some sort of verse or passage where the two phrases are linked somehow. You have not provided any as of yet. But, I have provided you with several examples where 'His people' refers to Israel. So, I am still looking for a verse which specifically states that Christ did not die for everyone, or that He only died for some. Until such a time as a verse is brought forth, I will have to accept that Christ did in fact die for 'all men' as Scripture says! :-) As for your last question, if indeed 'His people' is a reference to Israel, then of course they would be included in 'His sheep', but the two phrases would not be synonomous. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |