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NASB | Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 13:8 All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice]. |
Subject: Whose will causes a believer to sin? |
Bible Note: Greetings John! I am getting ready to unhook my computer! :-) So, I will not be checking in for a little while. I did want to quickly respond my friend! You are correct that I have been responding quickly, but I hope not uncourteously! :-) As I understand your position, you seem to be shifting between two possibilities. You sometimes say that God ordains every choice and action. At other times, you say that God uses choices and actions for His glory. There is a big difference between the two positions. The core question of man's ability to exercise any free will comes to a head with Adam and Eve. Because Adam and Eve were created 'good', they had no depraved human nature. Thus, there are only two possibilities when it comes to their sin. Either God ordain (i.e. - made them do it), or they 'willed' to sin on their own. From my perspective, you can't or won't say that they willed it on their own because then you would have to admit that God does not 'ordain' every choice and action, but then again you can't really bring yourself to say that God ordain their sin. That is why I responded the by asking if God was free to sin. Simply put, if God was the direct 'cause' of Adam and Eve's sin, then He sinned by violating His own law and nature. So, my friend, you are going to have to decide whether or not you really believe that every choice and action is ordained by God. Just so we are clear, by 'ordained' I mean 'caused to happen by God's will'. I don't mean that He simply 'uses' something to accomplish His will when He ordains it. I mean that His will is the direct cause. I'll check back in a day or so for you reply my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |