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NASB | Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 13:8 All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice]. |
Subject: Whose will causes a believer to sin? |
Bible Note: "But, you have previously said that God ordained every choice and action. So, we are back to the same question. Did Adam and Eve sin because they willed it or because God willed it?" -------------------------------------- Yes. In the sense that God, had He willed to do so, could have foregone their creation in the first place. Being that He did create them with the capacity to sin, is it not obvious that it also suited His eternal purpose. ------------------------------------------------- "If the original sin of Adam and Eve was a direct result of God's ordained plan, then God is the author of sin. There is no way around this conclusion."...."If God is the author of Adam and Eve's sin, then He is also the direct cause of all the sins of those who followed Adam and Eve, who (according to your definition of freedom) followed the dictates of their fallen nature and sinned as well." ----------------------------------------------- OOPS! Carefull here Tim. Pride goeth before a fall! :-) Is sin a created thing? I don't think that it is. Sin is "missing the mark". Man's failure to live up to God's command "to be perfect, even as He is perfect". Adam and Eve missed the mark when they disobeyed God's command. God uses sin in the lives of His creatures, both the just and the unjust, for His own Holy purpose. This neither excuses the sinner nor makes God the Author of sin. (see Acts 4: 26-28) Of course God could have eliminated the possibility of any of His creatures sinning by simply not issuing any commands whatsoever. But the fact is that He did introduce the law (no law, no sin) knowing that they would fall. Why He acted as He has is beyond our ken. And it has pleased Him to not reveal the answer to us. We probably could'nt understand it anyway! :-) The deeper we dig into the truths of God the deeper they go. Is 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. John |