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NASB | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned. |
Subject: disciplerami when did you Bcome a sinner |
Bible Note: Greetings, the doctrine of the old sin nature is pretty much cut and dried in all of the Christian circles, that I have come in contact with, yet out of the blue here comes something new. If according to what you have been taught, we are not sinners until we commit the first act of sin, wouldn’t it be possible that Christ wouldn’t have had to come into the world to die for us, since there were some here that could have died as a substitute, that were sinless? All God would have had to do was pour out all the sins of the world on to that person before they became a sinner. Do you suppose that Paul was wrong when he said, Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Maybe all doesn’t really me all and the babies are excluded. They wouldn’t even have had to be babies to be sinless because of a verse in John. John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. Could this mean that there were those that Jesus was talking about that were sinless, our do you suppose that is pulling it out of context a little? Anytime we think we have the correct logic, for any specific doctrine, and that logic is thwarted by other Scripture it means we haven’t found the common denominator for that logic to be plausible. 2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: It would appear that you are confusing the word sins with the word sin. It is hard to detect the differentiation with the English but in essence we commit sins because we have sin, as a nature, that is in us from birth. It is apparent that our old sin nature resides in the cell structure of our bodies according what Paul has told us. Romans 7:17-18 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. Paul has become aware that he is in position of two natures and one is in conflict with the other constantly, but there will come a time when the sin nature, residing in the body, will be done away with and Paul knew who to thank. Romans 7:20-25 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Have a nice day, CDBJ |