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NASB | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned. |
Subject: Is sin inherited from father and mother? |
Bible Note: Greetings Disciplerami! I wasn't aware that one could only quote from the NASB! ;-) I normally use the NIV, which is what I was quoting from. The NET Bible footnote for this verse states: "The psalmist?s point is that he has been a sinner from the very moment his personal existence began. By going back beyond the time of birth to the moment of conception, the psalmist makes his point more emphatically in the second line than in the first." If David isn't speaking of himself, then what is he speaking of? The entire Psalm is a confession of HIS SIN. Does David now turn around are start speaking of conception itself as being sinful? My friend, the verse is clear, whether you want to admit it or not. David was a sinner from conception. Concerning the Scriptural support, I did provide it, I just didn't spell it all out. I pointed you to Romans 5. But, if you insist that I spell it out, I will! Let's begin in Rom. 5:12 and go through verse by verse (by the way, I will be quote the NIV)! Rom. 5:12 - sin entered the world through Adam's disobedience. Death is a consequence of sin, because all sinned. The last verb is a past tense. It doesn't say that all die because all will sin or may sin. It says that all die because all sinned. Now, how could we all be said to have sinned, even if we were not alive when Paul penned this verse? This verb points to one act of sin in which all men, no matter when they were born, participated. When could that be? The only answer is Adam's sin. His sin corrupted us all and brought death upon us all. This emphasis upon Adam's sin and it's consequences is repeated throughout the passage. Consider the following: a) v. 15 - "many died by the trespass of the one man" b) v. 16 - "The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation" c) v. 17 - "by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man" d) v. 18 - "just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men" e) v. 19 - "For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners" None of these verses say that we die because we sin. None of these verses say that condemnation comes because we sin. They all say that these are a result of Adam's sin. Rom. 5:13 and 14 - Even those who did not disobey a specific command, like Adam did, died. Why? Because, death entered the world because of Adam's sin. Rom. 5:15 - Here Paul begins a series of contrast and comparisions between Adam's sin and Christ's death. Adam's sin brought death for all, but Christ's death brought grace for all. Rom. 5:16 - Adam's sin brought condemnation for all, but Christ's death brought justification for all. But wait, not all are saved! So, what is Paul talking about? See the next verse for the answer. Rom. 5:17 - Death reigns because of Adam's sin, but life will reign in "...those who receive God?s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness" Rom. 5:18 - Adam's sin brought condemnation for all men, but Christ's death brought justification and life for all men. Rom. 5:19 - Adam's disobedience made us all sinners, but Christ's obedience made us righteous. So, in response to your questions about the atonement. I do not believe in two atonements. I believe in one atonement for all sin - past, present, and future. According to Rom. 5:17, everyone who accepts this gift will live. But, the atonement itself was for all men, according to Rom. 5:18-19. These verse say that Christ's death went to the same extent as Adam's sin. This should be enough for now! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |