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NASB | Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:9 because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. |
Subject: Isn't Baptism neccessary for salvation?? |
Bible Note: Hello, You write: "I never used these terms in my post. Why do you attribute them to me? I fully believe that baptism does SOMETHING. I disagree that we are justified by baptism." I respond by saying that a person IS NOT justified by baptism [only faith in the blood can do that], but we are justified AT baptism. The God-given purpose is to unite you with Christ. Paul said we are sons of God THROUGH faith. He then goes to tell us when: "for all of you have been baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." (Gal.3:26,27). Paul also connected baptism and faith in Colossians 2:12. Please, do not misunderstand me. My faith is not in works of the flesh, my faith is in God's free gift. Anyone who places his faith in water, or a baptizER, or any other word is misguided. You only have to be baptized once, if it is done right. Acts 19 shows when people need to be re-baptized. "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body." This is correct. Titus and John show that the grace of God is first attained when baptized. A man must be born of water and Spirit (Jn 3:3,5). We are saved, not on the basis of deeds done in the flesh,...by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit." Outwardly, and in faith, we get in the water. Because of our faith, the Holy Spirit cleanes the soul with the blood of Christ. "By one Spirit we were all baptized" Joe, baptism is very important. It is important because God commanded it and assigned it a purpose. Think, why did the jailer get baptized the same night, after midnight? Why 3,000 in one day. The pattern suggest urgency. "Look, water, what prevents me from being baptized?" - the Eunuch. A person who is taught the Gospel, is taught baptism. Understanding the purpose of baptism, the person requests to be baptized. His faith is in God and it is seen in the act of faith. Also, I'm sorry to have assigned something to you that you didn't say. I was just offering general responses that people give for being baptized. If someone wants to be saved, why not say to them what Ananias said to Paul, "now why do you delay, arise and be baptized, washing away thy sins, calling on His name." Your debate with me is not over WHAT justifies: I believe fully that we are saved by grace through faith. Our debate has to do with the MOMENT that one is saved. Some say at the moment of belief, some say at confession, some say at repentance, some say at baptism. Now, if I said that baptism is the point in time at which a little newborn baby was saved, then you could charge me with believing in works salvation. A baby cannot have his own faith, and the 'baptism' [not really an immersion]is just a work of man. When there is no faith, there is no grace [This explains why the majority of people will be lost. The potential for salvation exist for them since Jesus died to taste death for ALL men, and because God desires ALL men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth, but their faith is in the carnal world]. No, I believe in salvation by grace at the point one is baptized in faith. Good day. |