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NASB | John 9:24 ¶ So a second time they called the man who had been blind, and said to him, "Give glory to God; we know that this man is a sinner." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 9:24 ¶ So a second time they called the man who had been [born] blind, and said to him, "Give God glory and praise [for your sight]! We know this Man [Jesus] is a sinner [separated from God]." |
Subject: Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man |
Bible Note: Ray: You wrote: "I have to disagree with your first statement. I don't believe that Scripture will be found to support a belief that Jesus is still a man." With all due respect, I think that you have taken 1 Corinthians 15:45 out of its context and given it a meaning that is unintended. First of all, the Second Adam being a life-giving Spirit is contrasted with the first Adam being a living soul. Adam had a body as well as a soul, so it is not contradicting the view that Jesus retains His resurrection body to say that He became a life-giving Spirit. That would also be in harmony with the same chapter you cited: "So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body." --1 Corinthians 15:42-44 Our body will be of the same nature as Christ's resurrected one (Philippians 3:20-21), and Paul refers to it here as imperishable. In fact, the whole chapter can be seen as identifying our own resurrection to be like Christ's (15:20), where he is called the "firstfruits" (15:23) and elsewhere in Scripture the "firstborn from among the dead" (Colossians 1:18; Revelation 1:5). Lastly, John's encounter with Him in Revelation 1 shows Him to still possess His glorified body, a body like we will have. Jesus led the way. The universal Resurrection began with Him. That is why classical Protestant theology holds that at the Resurrection we will become everything that Jesus is in His resurrected human nature. Christ, of course, has a divine nature as well. We will not become gods, a la Mormonism, but everything Jesus is in his humanity we will be partakers of as well. You also wrote: "We we get to heaven we will see Him as He truly is. God is Spirit." And God the Son didn't stop being Spirit when he took on a second, human nature. He was still both God and man in His earthly ministry, and he "continueth to be, God and man in two distinct natures, and one person for ever." You wrote: "I also believe that we have to take your last paragraph on faith. If God did not create Himself, who did?" No one did. God is UNcreated. From everlasting to everlasting. The uncaused Cause. To say that God was created is to suggest that there was a point at which God did not exist, which is contrary to Scripture. So no one created God, because God is YHWH, the eternal I AM. You wrote: "I also believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son." So do I. --Joe! |