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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Subject: Verses where water alone means baptism? |
Bible Note: Dear Tim, Your comment 'we do not earn our salvation based upon anything that we do, nor can we lose our salvation based upon anything that we do' sure doesn't jump out at me as a statement that mirrors any passage of scripture. It requires an interesting interpretation on verses which talk of the last state of that person is worse than before he had believed, 'saving a soul from death' etc. As a Catholic, we would tend to believe: a serious mortal sin and rejection of Christ often go hand in hand, and it would be artificial to separate them. The unrepentant sinner, say a murderer or adulterer, cannot bear to face God and turns away. The mortal sin usually kills the believing faith in its tracks. Your 5th point says something akin to this). Faith will fade right away if you are deeply into the worse sins, even if you go through the motions externally to those in your Church. As regards the Catholic-Lutheran Declaration, it is not a agreement in full but a statement which shows that there are many common areas in the understanding of Justification. Certainly, the popular view held by many 'ordinary' evangelicals is simply false: viz. we believe in works-salvation not Christ's atonement. This is thanks mainly to the anti-Catholic slanders published by Dave Hunt, Jack Chick, Bart Brewer, Ralph Woodrow, etc. I have read your statements of faith at www.nazarene.org and must say you are far closer to the full revelation than the type of evangelicals I know (and was). Dalcent |