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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Subject: Verses where water alone means baptism? |
Bible Note: Doc, " In John 3:5 the word "and" is not the Greek "de" but rather "kai." The former is a simple conjunction. The latter is copulative conjunction. This means that the two phrases ("water" and "spirit") occur in simultaneity. " That is exactly what the Catholic argument is. That baptism is a scrament which accomplishes what it signifies in the very act. That is simultaneously. In Baptsim we receive grace and the indwelling Holy Spirit. You having graciously made the argument for my point even better than me, I am content to left the matter rest. I will be off the Forum for at least a week after today. Emmaus |