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1 | Are those drawn 2 Christ raised to life? | Rev 13:8 | BibleStudent74 | 88761 | ||
Dear Tim, Just so that I'm clear on what your saying. Your saying that when Matthew writes Matthew 27:9 "Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;" he really means Jeremiah even though he is directly quoting Zechariah? It seems that your saying he was talking about buying the field with 17 PIECES OF SILVER because God was going to have Israel set free again. That's what your references are referring to. If that were the case, then why would Matthew himself make a connection with Judas selling Jesus out for thirty pieces of silver and saying (I'm paraphrasing) "and when this happened, this was the fullfilment of the prophecy found in Jeremiah that says "And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;"? This doesn't add up. I need to blur my vision in order to see it that way. Let's try to come to an agreement on both our parts. Fact#1 Matthew says to look in the book of Jeremiah for this quote. "And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;" Fact#2 You look for that quote in the book of Jeremiah and you NEVER find it. Fact#3 If you look in every book in the old testament for that quote, you ONLY find it in the book of Zechariah. Specifically Zechariah 11:12 Am I making this up or can we agree on these three facts? Your Brother in Christ, Phil |
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2 | Are those drawn 2 Christ raised to life? | Rev 13:8 | Morant61 | 88780 | ||
Greetings Phil! Fact 1: Matthew doesn't say to look in Jeremiah. He says "what was spoken by Jeremiah was fulfilled". I just want to make sure that our facts are precise! ;-) Fact 2: You never find the precise quote from Mt. 27:9-10 in Jeremiah. Fact 3: You also never find the precise quote from Mt. 27:9-10 in Zechariah. The quote from Mt. 27:9-10 is most similar to Zech. 11:12-13, but common words are also found in Jeremiah. Just so we are clear, here is the quote from Mt. alongside Zech. 11:12-13: Mt. 27:9b-10 - "...They took the thirty silver coins, the price set on him by the people of Israel, 10 and they used them to buy the potter’s field, as the Lord commanded me." Zech. 11:12-13: "I told them, 'If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it.' So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. 13 And the LORD said to me, 'Throw it to the potter' — the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter." Now, are these two quotes identical? No! Here is what the Bible Knowledge Commentary says about this issue: ********************************* Matthew viewed these events as the fulfillment of a prophecy of Jeremiah. But the prophecy Matthew quoted was primarily from Zechariah, not Jeremiah. There is a close resemblance between Matthew 27:9-10 and Zechariah 11:12-13. But there are also similarities between Matthew’s words and the ideas in Jeremiah 19:1, 4, 6, 11. Why then did Matthew refer only to Jeremiah? The solution to this problem is probably that Matthew had both prophets in mind but only mentioned the “major” prophet by name. (A similar situation is found in Mark 1:2-3, where Mark mentioned the Prophet Isaiah but quoted directly from both Isaiah and Malachi.) In addition, another explanation is that Jeremiah, in the Babylonian Talmud (Baba Bathra 14b), was placed first among the prophets, and his book represented all the other prophetic books. *********************************** Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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