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1 | Whose will causes a believer to sin? | Rev 13:8 | John Reformed | 88114 | ||
Dear Hank, " So your argument is that it was God's will that the fall of Adam and Eve would occur?" How else then could it have occured if God had not permitted it to occur. He is Lord over all creation. Nothing can take place that is not in accord with God's eternal purpose. Our problem is that we don't see the "Big Picture". We don't understand the glory of God's eternal plan. We look at tiny slices of life and think we know it all. Take the case of Joseph and his brothers for instance. Had we been there we would have questioned why God would allow the brothers to be so sinful as to plot the death of young Joseph. But all along God had planned tremendous good to come out of evil. Here comes the tricky part...Gen 50:20 "As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive. "but God meant it.." Acts 4 basically teaches this same principle. God had ordained the actions that surrounded the murder of Christ. Does that make God the author of sin. Of course not. Just as Joseph's brothers meant evil, Pilate, Herod and the rest meant evil as well. BUT GOD MEANT IT FOR GOOD! The same is true going all the way back to Adam and Eve. "God often brings good out of evil, and promotes the designs of his providence even by the sins of men; not that he is the author of sin, far be it from us to think so; but his infinite wisdom so overrules events, and directs the chain of them, that, in the issue, that ends in his praise which in its own nature had a direct tendency to his dishonour; as the putting of Christ to death, Acts 2:23." (Matthew Henry Commentary) I guess that it boils down to the question: Does God know the future because He knows how everything will turn out (which means He is passive in His rule) or Does He know the end from the begining because He ordained all things that occur (which means He is active in His rule.) I see everything that happens as being part of God's eternal plan. The cross was planned along with everythingelse before the foundation of the world. Eph 3:11 This was in accordance with the eternal purpose which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord, John |
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2 | Whose will causes a believer to sin? | Rev 13:8 | Hank | 88118 | ||
John Reformed: You still have not answered the question that I asked you in Post 88095 which was prompted by two of your statements in Post 88091. So let's go back and review your statements: "God created Adam and Eve with the freedom to choose between obedience to His command or to disobey His command." You follow with this statement, "His will was that their fall should occur." The Question: If Adam and Eve had the freedom to choose (as you have stated), was it Adam and Eve's will, or God's will, that resulted in their decision (choice) to disobey God's command? Please provide a biblical answer. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Whose will causes a believer to sin? | Rev 13:8 | John Reformed | 88124 | ||
Hank If Adam and Eve had the freedom to choose (as you have stated), was it Adam and Eve's will, or God's will, that resulted in their decision (choice) to disobey God's command? My Final Answer is..........(dramatic pause)Both! They meant it for evil but God meant it for good. As I understand the Bible, God had an eternal purpose in creating the world and all things in it. Now, I am confident that a sound SB like yourself would never buy into the diest view that sees God as a watchmaker who created the world, wound it up and just let it keep on ticking. The Bible refutes such nonsense. Is 46:1 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure'; "all My good pleasure". That means to me that God does not merely know the beginning from the end, but has "declared" them, so as to inform us all that He rules over everthing and everybody. "My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure'; That sounds as definite as it gets. Everything that He has planned will happen. Do any of us think that we will live a nanosecond longer than God has planned for our lives? Or that a drop of rain will fall in any other place than where God planned for it to fall? Of course not! We serve a Mighty God. There is no end to the depth of His greatness. Re-read Acts 4 and tell me what it means. Just don't tell me it relates to the crucifixtion but not to the rest of God's works. Eph 1:11,12 "also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory." God Bless, John |
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