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1 | What IS your belief? | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25371 | ||
Shepard's thesis's were speculations and thus are the product of man. Mine is a grammatical and linguistic analysis of the evidence; that is, I looked to see what the Greek words that Paul wrote meant. --- ""I still don't know whether you are saying that we should repent and dump Sunday assembly, or it's technically wrong but morally OK, or what?"" My study was of limited scope (it isn't even a complete exegetical analysis fo the verse). To go beyond the evidence is called eisegesis. There are others here who are far more capable and willing to do that. Since I have been trained as a pastor I can't go beyond what the text says. If you want a myth talk to the myth-makers; I'll give you cold hard facts. All I can tellyou so far is that if someone uses Col. 2:16-17 and tells you that it says Paul says we should keep the Sabbath then I can say that they a) haven't read the text clearly and b) Paul isn't even talking about the seventh-day Sabbath at all--tangentally, but still based on what Paul does say in Col. 2:16, we can say that since he didn't tell the believers not to keep the feast days and new moons and ceremonial sabbaths and he refers to them in the present tense some 30 years after the cross doesn't that imply that we should be keeping them today? And if that's true for them then what does that say about the seventh-day Sabbath? And then, where does that leave Sunday-keeping? One should always bear in mind that a sin is not sin if you don't know that it is a sin. And God knows exactly what you know and why you know it. He also knows why you don't know some things and what you could have known if you had taken the effort to know. Kapeesh? |
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2 | Sunday or Saturday? | Col 2:16 | charis | 25377 | ||
Dear djconklin, The original question was "What is the true worship day, Sunday or Saturday?" After all you have posted, do you have an answer for that question? Trained as a pastor? Would your congregation be as confused as we are after your sermon? :-) Friend, I don't mean any disrespect. I truly can't see that you have made a conclusive statement on this issue. As our esteemed colleague 'Indiana Jones' pointed out, "...the kinds of technical questions that entertain scholars these days don't have much bearing on the lives of believers." Finally, stick to Greek! :-) Capisch? In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Sunday or Saturday? | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25408 | ||
"The original question was "What is the true worship day, Sunday or Saturday?"" However, the devil lies in the details and here we are looking at specifically at Col. 2:16-17. What does it say about Sunday? --- Skipping the sarcasm; "I truly can't see that you have made a conclusive statement on this issue." I have said it a number of times; let's try it again in a different way: THIS VERSE DOES NOT CONDEMN SABBATH-KEEPING AS IS COMMONLY CLAIMED. IT ISN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE SEVENTH-DAY SABBTH IN THE FIRST PLACE. Hmm-m-m, capitalizing definitely does help it to stand out. |
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4 | What day do YOU attend church? | Col 2:16 | charis | 25410 | ||
Dear djconklin, Greetings in the name of Jesus! Friend, I see that you are being very careful to only answer the 'whole' question originally asked by cd3 back in April. You have made the point that Colossians 2:16 and 17 speaks nothing of the Sabbath. Fine. The 'short' version of the question, however, is pretty clearly asking, "What is the true worship day, Sunday or Saturday?" This question demands an answer such as "Saturday" or "Sunday" or "both" or "neither" or "it doesn't matter" or "I don't know" or SOMETHING! I was just wondering if you had an opinion about this? You intimated that your pastoral training kept you from making eisegetical statements or promulgating mythical dogma. So, maybe I can take a different tack, and ask you something that you CAN answer without obfuscation. What day do you attend church? Now see, that wasn't too bad! :-) Much easier than a root canal or a liver transplant! Please know that I don't seem to corner the market on sarcasm. :-) You do a fine job yourself! Please know that we are not trying to mean or anything. Those of us that have been around for a while have had to fight tooth and nail for clear Biblical statements. You might say that we desire 'hot or cold' and 'yes or no' answers, because there are so many 'lukewarm' and 'maybe' answers that are not answers. Peace to you in Christ Jesus, charis |
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5 | What day do YOU attend church? | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25511 | ||
"What day do you attend church?" You are assuming that I go to church. Much like many "commentators" assume that they know what Col. 2:16-17 is talking about. Tit-for-tat and it won't hurt as much as (well, that assumes you don't put your foot in it): what is Col.2:16-17 about? |
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6 | What day do YOU attend church? | Col 2:16 | charis | 25529 | ||
Dear djconklin, Assuming that you go to church is assuming too much? Wow! I guess then that I would be assuming too much if I assumed that you Christian, simply because you were posting on a Study Bible forum, right? Before you say I am judging you, please note that I am saying nothing of the sort! I have finished assuming that you have manners or common courtesy, too. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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7 | What day do YOU attend church? | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25552 | ||
I have met atheists posting on Christian boards. I have been taught howe to read very carefully and since I have been attacked on this board it should be no surprise to anyone that my shields are up. Fundamentally ,it is irrelevant on what day I worship. You are not saved or lost by my example. Your only question should be: what does the Bible say? |
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