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1 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Ray | 54958 | ||
NKJ, John 9:24, "So they again called the man who was blind, and said to him, "Give God the glory! We know that this Man is a sinner." 1 Peter 2:21, "...leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH." When comparing these verses, why would someone still say today that Jesus was just a man? From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | stokeyhk | 55038 | ||
Ay up, Ray. Because Paul, an apostle, said he was a man! 1 Timothy 2:5 says: "There is one God and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus." Now, of course, he is "a life-giving spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45) Stokeyhk. |
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3 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Ray | 55046 | ||
Hi Stokeyhk, Thank you for your participation and your Scripture references. May I say first of all that I am considering the capitalization of "man" and so we should stay away from all capitals in our posts. All capitals doesn't allow for any distinction either way. I am not alone in thinking of Him as a Man, as indicated by the rendering of your 1 Timothy reference in the NKJ. 1 Timothy 2:5, NKJ, "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus." I notice that you do not capitalize pronouns since you have written "he was", and "he is". And that is all right because many good people and good writers do the same. But I thank you for the 1 Corinthians reference and for the "he...spirit" connnection for it leads me to reconsider that passage. The "he" of that passage is the last Adam. This "second Man is the Lord from heaven" according to 1 Cor 15:47, NKJ. You have caused me to consider capitalizing life-giving spirit. Consider John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." From the heart, Ray |
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4 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | stokeyhk | 55062 | ||
Hi, Ray: The capitalization of "man" was merely for emphasis, nothing more! Of course, Jesus was the greatest man who ever lived because he was perfect, tried and tested. However, he was totally human, since he was 'conceived' not like the angels who materialized. (Luke 1:31) Stokeyhk. |
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5 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | 2ndSamuel22 | 55065 | ||
Dear stokeyhk, I am not sure by your posts about whether you believe that Jesus was truly God the Son. Or if you think that He was 'only a man'(however perfect). Would you please clarify your position? God is my Strength and Power, and He makes my way perfect!! 2nd Samuel 22 |
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6 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | stokeyhk | 55074 | ||
I believe Jesus was born three times: 1) Colossians 1:15; Revelation 3:14: "The firstborn of every creature." "The beginning of the creation of God." (KJV) 2) Luke 1:35: "That holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." (KJV) 3) Jesus was "declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by resurrection from the dead." (Romans 1:4, KJV) In the first stage of Jesus' life he was a spirit son of God. In the second stage he was a human son of God. Now, in the final and eternal stage, he is again a "life-giving spirit." However, he now has greater authority. (See Matthew 28:18; Philippians 2:9-11; 1 Peter 3:22) 1 Corinthians 11:3 says: "The head of Christ is God." So as Ephesians 1:2, 3, 17 show "God our Father" is the "God of our Lord Jesus Christ." So, I believe God is the Almighty Father, "the most high," Jesus is God's firstborn Son, a "mighty God" but subject to God, yet at God's right hand, hence having the second highest position. (Exodus 6:3; Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 9:6, 7; Philippians 2:11, KJV) Stokeyhk. |
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7 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | srbaegon | 55081 | ||
Hello Stokeyhk So I must conclude that you believe Jesus is a created spirit-being who took on the appearance of man and has now attained to some type of functional godhood because of his close relation and obedience to God. Does that about sum it up? Steve |
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8 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | stokeyhk | 55088 | ||
The Bible clearly shows "Jesus is a created spirit-being." He didn't 'take on the appearance of man' but was actually a human son of God the same as Adam. (1 Corinthians 15:45) Jesus then received "all authority in heaven and on earth" as given to him by God. (Matthew 28:18) Hebrews 5:8 shows he was obedient to God, for example. Stokey. |
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9 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Reformer Joe | 55091 | ||
The Bible shows that Jesus became a real man (and still is one), but also shows that He is God: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being." --John 1:1-3 The Word was with God and the Word WAS God. All things came into being through Jesus Christ. Apart from Jesus Christ nothing came into being that has come into being. If Jesus is created, that means that Jesus came into being. If nothing at all came into being without Jesus Christ, then He preceded and played an active part in His own creation. I think that wins the prize for the most logically impossible statement to date on Study Bible Forum! --Joe! |
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10 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Ray | 55097 | ||
Hi Reformer Joe, I have to disagree with your first statement. I don't believe that Scripture will be found to support a belief that Jesus is still a man. We have already looked at 1 Corinthians 15:45 where it says, "The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." We we get to heaven we will see Him as He truly is. God is Spirit. I also believe that we have to take your last paragraph on faith. If God did not create Himself, who did? I also believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son. From the heart, Ray |
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11 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | srbaegon | 55099 | ||
Hello Ray Jesus Christ is most certainly a man. It is that man who is our mediator today. 1 Tim. 2:5 (ESV) For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Steve |
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12 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Reformer Joe | 55105 | ||
Right, and Hebrews goes on to say that as a man, he continues to make intercession for us and that His priesthood continues forever. A priest who is not one of us cannot represent us. And Jesus clearly still represents us: "The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing, but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently. Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself." --Hebrews 7:23-27 Thanks for the reminder! --Joe! |
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13 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Ray | 55243 | ||
Hi Joe, The Man of Hebrews, the High Priest, abides forever, and holds His priesthood permanently. He always lives to make intercession for them. There is a contrast not unlike the contrast between this Man and other men. There is the contrast between the High Priest and the other high priest who were prevented by death from continuing as priests. Hebrews 7:26,27, "For it was fitting that we should have such a High (Priest), holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for *his own sins, and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself." See the NKJ for the rendering of High Priest. And this Man is not a sinner, so He does not offer up sacrifices for *His own sins. Those sacrifices offered up were by the high priests for their own individual sins and for the sins of the people. From the heart, Ray |
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14 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Reformer Joe | 55248 | ||
Okay, I agree. I don't know what you are driving at, Ray, but what you say here is truth. --Joe! |
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15 | Do you yet say that Jesus was just a man | John 9:24 | Ray | 55254 | ||
Hi Reformer Joe, What I want people to see is that no matter what people say about Jesus, He is God. In the verse of this thread, we see people saying that this man is a sinner. I want to tell everyone, this Man is not a sinner. I think that in the NASB and NKJ, there has to be more consistency in the capitalization of Man when it talks about Jesus. And this is not a slam against translators or a denial of the trustworthiness of the Scriptures; it is just a statement of fact, to my mind, that the Scriptures can be translated/interpretted better than they are. (The capitalization of Man is an interpretation.) The interpretation is what I am most concerned about since I have little knowledge of Greek or Hebrew. With the arrival of more and more versions, it is clear that many feel that a more accurate rendering of the Scriptures is possible. From the heart, Ray |
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