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1 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | John Reformed | 75340 | ||
Come now Tim, you know that a good calvist does'nt believe in "luck". We don't even have "pot luck" dinners. We call em' "pot providence" dinners. No...I'm not kidding! :-) But be carefull in your arguement on original sin. The "T" in TULIP is a slippery slope leading to unconditional election all the way to Perseverence of the saints. :-o I know, you don't have to say it....I'm incorrigible. God Bless, John |
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2 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | Hank | 75491 | ||
John, the "T" in TULIP is a "slippery slope" only when it is interpreted and served up a la Calvin. Scripture teaches man's depravity. Calvinism teaches man's depravity and defines it as total inability of man to repent and believe the gospel unless, of course, he is one of the "elect." No response is necessary. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | John Reformed | 75502 | ||
Hi Hank, You know me...I never mind responding. :-) It is for good reason (scriptural proof) that calvinists hold to their doctrine of human inability to perform spiritual good. Is it not true that "repentance unto salvation" is something that is granted by God to men? Acts 5:31 "He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Acts 11:18 When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life." 2 Tim 2:25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, There is a conspicuous absense of man's ability to repent in the verses above. If you can show me where the Bible ascribes the "natural man" with this facility, I would re-examine my understanding of it. As to "natural man's" ability to believe, Paul said in 1 Cor 2:14, "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." This is a serious roadblock to my believing in salvation through the will of man. I say the "will of man" for (according to arminianism) the natural man must exercise his free will to believe or to reject the gospel. Of course, the Bible says in John 1:12 "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name," 13 "who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." A carefull reading of these 2 verses show that those who recieve Him do so because they have been born again by the will of God. The keys is "were born" and "nor by the will of man." God Bless, John |
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4 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75520 | ||
Dear John, Have you heard this one: Roses are red, violets are blue, if you ain't Gentile, then you must be Jew. Excuse me for repeating that, but I have a point. If God granted to Jew the ability to repent, and God granted to Gentiles the ability to repent, that covers everyone. God has granted it to everyone. Also, I who began this thread, do not believe in Arminianism, Pelagagianism, Calvinism, or any other 'ism.' As long as my argumentation is viewed as being one of these 'isms', then you won't hear what I'm say. The 'natural man' that you refer to from 1 Corinthians 2, can be a Christian or non-Christian. Romans 8 speaks to Christians and encourages them to set their minds on the things of the Spirit, not the things of the flesh. It is a choice. Weigh the evidence, and choose to fix your hopes on things above. The 'born again' Corinthians were very carnal, as you know. Carnal, Natural, it is all the same. They were looking at things as mere men. They were looking at things, not as spiritual men. They were, like Peter, putting man's interests ahead of God's. Peter 'stood condemned' because He chose to separate himself from the Gentiles when Jewish brethren entered the room. Paul rebuked him. Peter was caught in a sin and he was 'called down' for it. Sin is a choice, just like love and faith. We choose to love, we choose to put our faith in God, and not in the things of this world. "God gave the right to become children of God" to those who choose to receive Him. That's Bible, that's good news! It isn't good news if the Gospel isn't for all because Christ atonement was a 'limited atonement' or because 'spiritual separation' and the certain destruction is inherited. Have a good day. I must go to bed. |
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