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1 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134949 | ||
Dear Tim, You ask which specific verses I am thinking of: verses which talk of the last state of that person is worse than before he had believed, 'saving a soul from death' etc. I thought the verses quoted were so well known as not to need referencing. Anyway they where from: 2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. Jam 5:19 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, Jam 5:20 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. I eagerly await your assessment of my quotes but I'm insisting that 'a brother who wanders from the truth' and the one who has 'escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ' are obviously Christians. Furthermore, a soul NOT saved from death, or 'the last state has become worse for them than the first' does not sound good. Your brother in Christ Best Regards Dalcent |
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2 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Morant61 | 134951 | ||
Greetings Dalcent! Thanks for the response my friend! I just didn't want to assume to know what verses you were referencing! :-) That is why I asked for clarification. As I have mentioned before, I am not a Calvinist. Therefore, I certainly do believe that salvation can be rejected. So, I would totally agree with you that Christians are being discussed in 2 Pet. 2:20 and James 5:19-20. The only part we would apparently disagree on is what causes their states to be worse. Per Heb. 10:29, I would say that it is their ongoing rejection of Christ that causes breaks their relationship with Christ, not an act of sin. But, we are making progress! We actually agree on something! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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