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Subject: Superior Hope |
Bible Note: Ancient Once again you speak of things you know nothing about. I think you need to revisit the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades to find out what exactly they were about. As far as a Salem witch trials which are mostly myth they had nothing to do with the church. As for the other problems you claim are the result of orthodoxy I will let someone from the catholic persuasion address your inaccuracies. As for this problem we have with Hebrew 10:25 it goes beyond my interpretation and yours. You said it is not a commandment therefore is optional. I’m saying very little of the New Testament is given as a commandment but none of it is optional. You said love covers all. I agree love is very important but love without morals, integrity, standard, precepts and commandments can quickly become corrupted. Love it the power the New Testament doctrines, advice as you call them, commandments to servant of Jesus are what gives that power direction. You said church is optional that some people need it but there are others that may feel they don’t and that is okay. Church and the worship of God is not optional and The reason is given right here in the Hebrews 10:25. We need to come together to build each other up to stir each other to better works. We are called to be our brothers keeper, how do we do this if were are not actively involved with them as in church? We can’t ! You said I’m attacking you yet did I call you arrogant, or prideful? Did I imply your doctrine was the reason people were killed in crusades, inquisitions? I’m not attacking you I’m attacking the doctrine you expounding. Your in effect saying if we do it in love we can justify most anything, from staying home from church to calling people whatever. You said I’m trying to make you say I’m right and your wrong, however it was I that conceded the fact that you were right going to church as stated in Hebrews 10:25 was not a commandment as such but rather an admonishment made for our good and that if we really wanted to serve Christ something we would do. You accuse me a not reading what you say. You say many things and in fact you have written more than four times what I have on this subject, yet you miss the most important part of the whole thread. That is the question is the words, actions and deeds recorded in the New Testament there as just a historical accountings of what took place or are they set down so we can duplicate, imitate and follow them as examples of Christian living. Jesus said pick up your cross and follow him, did he attend church? Yes! Paul said imitate me as I imitate Christ did he attend church? Yes! Yet you claim it as optional. I say it certainly in not optional. EdB |