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NASB | Hebrews 11:40 because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us they would not be made perfect. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 11:40 because God had us in mind and had something better for us, so that they [these men and women of authentic faith] would not be made perfect [that is, completed in Him] apart from us. |
Subject: Superior Hope |
Bible Note: Ancient Was the church responsible for Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, the Salem Witch Trials, The Papacy, Confessionals, Indulgences, and many other horrible thing as you put it or was it corrupt men that acted in the name of the church? I think this statement alone clearly gives a clear perspective of where your attitude toward the church and from where your coming from. The church is no longer the Church of Jesus Christ but painted as you have it is church of human oppression putting people into bondage, slavery and even death. It is not place of worship to worship God but a place of murder and corruption. Interesting paint your using. Sir you said "If not for Martin Luther standing in defiance to the Roman Catholic Church, you wouldn't have the spiritual opportunities you have today. Sometimes you have to question what has been taught. The Spirit is our guide, not orthodoxy." I submit if a spirit told you that church was not mandatory to the Christian walk you need to change the spirit your listening to. Love without restraint quickly runs amuck. We saw it first hand has parents under the tutorage of many so called experts loved their children into monsters of society morally bankrupt, believing society owes them a living, and living under of the code if it does not harm then it is okay. We have seen it in every society of history. ITS CALLED HUMANISM! Love must be accompanied with moral, integrity, values, standards, precepts, conditions, rules, laws, and commandments. I have learned in church to defend against apostasy. When someone comes to a Christian forum and denies church attendance is essential to the Christian walk I call it for what it is Baloney. If that insults you I’m sorry but I call it as I see it. You talk about my pride my arrogance. It is not me standing outside of orthodoxy saying your all wrong! I know the correct answer! And if you follow me I will lead you to the truth! Since you have come to the forum that has been your attitude that you were just a little better informed a little better studied, and little wiser, a little bit more in the know. Yet you have been repeatedly basically talking through your hat. Now that may not be the kindness way of stating it but I think when someone calls you prideful and arrogant it is time to call a spade a spade. EdB |