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Bible Note: Hello Ancient, You are correct--I am very opinionated. I find unswerving devotion to the Word of God does that. My only comment about Acts 20:7 was that you should consider it as what the church practiced some years later. It was you who said I was building an eternal doctrine on one verse. I agreed that this statement was correct. I would not try to build a doctrine off this one verse. I said you seemed unteachable because those I engage with that ask a multitude of questions without offering answers to those questions are only building a smokescreen. They don't want to learn the truth. What credible evidence do I base the timing of 2 Timothy to Acts 20? Pick up any commentary written by a Bible-believing person, and you'll find all the evidence you need. Check out www.bible.org or www.ccel.org for examples. Even doing the math straight from reading Acts and 2 Tim. you'll find this. What questions did I want answered? These: "Does Acts 20:7 say that they did not meet on the second day of the week? Or the third? Or the fourth? Does Acts 20:7 say that they only met on that day of the week? Is it possible they met on the other days as well, but we are not informed here because it is not immediately relevent to the story being told? Is it also possible they met the other days, since we are lacking an address of the issue in this passage, and especially in comparison with Acts 2:46? Is it possible that they were at the tail end of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, seeing that Paul and some of the others had gone ahead of the rest of the group, and the group that stayed behind didn't leave Phillipi until after said holiday? Could it be that the first day of the week was the last convocation of the holiday? The holiday lasts from the 14th through the 21st [Exodus 12:18]. It starts at evening on the 14th, and it ends at evening on the 21st. If the holiday started on a Sunday at evening, that would have it ending on a Sunday at evening. Could this be why they were gathered? We know from 2 Corinthians 2:12-13 that a door was opened up for Paul to preach the Gospel in Troas. But we know also from 2 Timothy 4:13-17 that in Troas, Alexander the coppersmith vigorously opposed his teaching, and everyone deserted Paul. So what kind of disciples were these men in Acts 20:7? We're talking about the same place. Are we talking about the same time? Is this the same occurrence? Did these "disiciples" we're wont to take example from the same "disciples" that abandoned Paul?" I consider "They did this, so we must do this" being inferior teaching as a disregard for Scripture. That's what I was discussing. I agree that knowing why a thing is to be done is important, but when God says to do something, we must do it even is there's no reason stated. (And please don't apply this to Acts 20:7. I'm not thinking of that passage.) Steve |