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Subject: Superior Hope |
Bible Note: Dear Steve, Let me open by saying that you are being insulting, condescending, accusatory, opinionated, and otherwise rude. Based on your response and the lack of reasonable answers, it is apparent to me that you did not take any time to consider what I said or why. I disagreed with your comment about Acts 20:7, demonstrated why I disagreed with it, and otherwise agreed with you that Sunday was the day of worship according to historical evidence. Taking my statements, putting words in my mouth through your lack of consideration, and demeaning me, is not the way you are going to pursuade me. You stated: "Based on your post, you are simply unteachable." I am unteachable because I refuted what you said, used scripture to substantiate it, and offered an alternative while agreeing with you? It seems to me that I am not the one unteachable here. Your one-liner statement, followed by a rash rebuke to credible statements, has all the stink of pride. You criticized me for saying: "I can punch holes in the credibility of it being an absolute statement good for doctrine," and turned right around and said, "So can I." What, exactly, is your point? If holes can be punched in it, then it is not a valid passage upon which to base a doctrine. Build upon a rock, not upon the sand. What you are holding to is flawed, and not because of the point, but because of your choice of scripture reference. There are better ones available. You said: "you were on a tangent based on slim evidence--one verse (Acts 2:46)." Need I point out to you that you were basing your point on the same slim evidence--one verse (Acts 20:7)? Do you not know that this makes you a hypocrite? The wisdom that is from God is without hypocrisy [James 3:17]. Your criticism was unbecoming. You said: "2 Timothy was written well after this--a minimum of a year and more likely several years." What credible evidence do you base this on? There are 28 chapters to the book of Acts. The events in Troas were in chapter 20. That's awfully close to the end. Paul is taken into custody in Acts 21:27, and from there ends up in Rome. You said: "Also, if you want to be believed, answer more questions than you ask." What questions, exactly, did you ask that I needed to answer? The whole of your post was: "You mentioned Acts 2:46, but might I point you to Acts 20:7 where the practice became meeting on the first day of the week." So you pointed me there, and I demonstrated that "this passage you are citing, while you are likely correct in your estimation, is not conclusive." I agreed with you that you were right, but found the reference lacking, and proceeded to demonstrate. What, exactly, is the problem here? Now, you said: "Do you have the same disregard for other Scriptures like:" I never disregarded any scripture. I feel that Acts 2:42-47 is a better example for the subject. I did not disregard Acts 20:7, but acknowledged the more definitive passage. Your statement is downright rude. I resent it. In no way was I trying to say that "believing" or "repenting" or "being baptized" was to be ignored. These things are plain statements, and I personally believe, have repented, and have been baptized. As for 'They did this, so we must do this,' is an inferior teaching to, 'They did this, and this is why, so let's apply the "why" to our lives.' We are not meant to be robots. They did the things they did for a reason. If we don't understand what that reason is, we can't apply the principle to other parts of our lives. To simply emulate what they did is ignorant when the opportunity is there for us to learn an even greater principle than simple mimicry. I hope I have properly addressed your statements to your satisfaction. If you feel the need to rebuke me again, I recommend you pray first, think second, and respond last. I have no desire to be in strife with you or anyone else. Ancient |