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Subject: Superior Hope |
Bible Note: Ancient I have never called you atheistic, a humanist nor heretical. I have said you are parroting their favorite line and I wonder why? Once again I do not think you will go to hell if you don't go to church. And I certainly won't put someone that misses church in the same class as a murder. However I do see us be told we should attend church. I see the law not as something that will decide my eternity but rather as a standard to live by. Somehow that concept seems to get lost on you. You either want to ignore the Law or say our salvation hinges on the Law. I say it is neither. Our trust and belief in Jesus Christ assures our eternity. However the Law or whatever you want to call it, I call it the entire Bible is to give us guidance by which to live by. Do we have to go to church? Yes we do. Will it effect our salvation? It may but not directly however by staying out of church we can turn from God. That brings me to the real point of my discussion, I do not believe an honest born again believer would stay out of church, nor do I believe they would excuse others from doing so. As a true Christian our attitude should be as expressed in Psalm 122:1 I was glad when they said to me, "Let us go into the house of the Lord." Your attitude on this disturbs me . You blame the church and Christianity for things that any true believer would know are simply not true. You say I chase after you. I say I follow after you correcting your incorrect teaching. You say I’m assuming I’m right no that is not it at all. I stand on orthodoxy and what the church fathers down through the ages have said is right. It has nothing to do with me or you. We are discussing basic precepts of Christianity and is one of those precepts church attendance or not. I say it is, and I stand in the company of many others that agree. You say church attendance is optional and the admonishments considered by many as basic church precepts are really misinterpretations and that there is no direction given in the New Testament on this account. To me that prideful to the point of saying everyone else is wrong and you and you alone have the handle on the truth. You say I’m full of myself, how by standing on age old doctrine? I fail to see you point EdB |