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Subject: Superior Hope |
Bible Note: So what you're saying, Ed, is that you cannot answer my questions because you are well aware of what the correct answers conclude. You THINK I'm trying to make a buffoon of you, but I'm asking reasonable questions that have answers you are plainly aware of, else you would not be wary of answering. Do YOU think that this is not showing a blatant unwillingness to be wrong and concede? Do you want to teach me or not? You are being given the opportunity. Are you going to take it, or are you going to continue to play this game of pointing fingers at me and avoiding the questions? As for my statement, I think the statement is pretty self explanatory. Just because something has "always been that way" does mean it's right. People used to think the world was flat, and the "orthodox" "Christians" tortured, maimed, and murdered those that refused to adhere to the "orthodox" teaching of the church. Long standing tradition doesn't make it correct. People have and do make mistakes, as they eventually discovered when Columbus discovered the New World. I have seen (though not by me personally) a number of orthodox views argued on this forum, and torn to pieces by people with sound scripture that made the doctrine so full of holes, it looked like a wheel of swiss by the time it was over. And with their wonderful pride, they shut up and don't respond to the final questions that drive home the final nail. I think my statement is appropriate. If you want to be a robot, have at it. The Lord is my teacher, not man, and the scriptures say what they say. Half of what I came up with was arrived at before learning orthodox doctrines. Upon hearing those orthodox doctrines and seeing what they were made of, I knew the holes immediately. Now, you're right about requiring you to play on my terms. This is not about your opinion, and brow beating me into compliance. We will discuss this topic according to all available evidence, and explore it objectively, or we are doing nothing more than discussing your opinion. So answer the questions, drop the subject, or concede. Now, your comments about the "rape, murder, and mayhem" is not laid on the "church" as in the "living body of Christ," but is laid at the feet of orthodox doctrines of the various centuries. Reread my posts if you didn't understand this to be my statement. Ancient |