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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Searching for the truth |
Bible Note: EdB, I never said the "Case Against Christianity" is valid. I'm not attempting to justify unbelief. What I'm saying is that sound doctrine should be taught rather than error. Sound doctrine is more likely to convince the nonbeliever than fables full of contradictions. You and I need no convincing - we already believe. But many who don't believe are hindered by reason. For many who are now converted - such as myself - certain reasonable objections had to be overcome. As I told mommapbs, I have been discussing this extensively elsewhere in this branch and the one I began with the question, "Rapture different from Second Coming?" What I ask is that you respond to what I have already said regarding the accuracy of the teachings. There IS no case against the gospel - the GOOD NEWS that Jesus taught. But the popularly taught fables contradict each other at several points. I am addressing these, point-by-point, and scripture-by-scripture. If we would continue in this manner - rather than trying to fell ideas that challenge cherished beliefs in one swift blow - I think we will all learn from each other. So, please consider the evidence I've presented, enlighten me with yours, and let us seek to come to agreement. Your brother in Christ, RL |