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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Searching for the truth |
Bible Note: Hi George, I understand your response. I tend to do this myself...and we scripture is truly the final authority in all discussion...gentleness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit in us, and as with all fruit, they take time to be produced in all of us. Now on Enoch and Elizah... "Who is to say that Enoch and Eliga have escaped the curse? (Now, please don't take this statement as it appears. Take it spiritually.) Who is to say their curse is not yet to come in the end days?" In discussing Enoch and Elizha, I do not know either. Most of us only have theory. The only thing that bothers me about this is the observation I made, that God does not change. I was opening up the discussion in light of our doctrines. God could not, would not violate His Word. The statement that God does not want us to know is not acceptable to me. Not because I believe He 'tells all' but because this statement can discourage a seeker from seeking. As a teacher, I do not agree with this method of answering a question. The best approach is to say that I do not know, but here is what we do know...now let's do some comparisons of scripture and pray for wisdom. As you said...did they escape? I do not have the answer anymore than Robert....And the fact is, neither did anyone else...but Robert had an excellent question. No, we do not know they escaped the curse, but there is the question of them going 'up' and not 'down'... But in light of the foundational doctrines, if we are wrong in those it will take a whole lot more than a brief discussion here on this forum! Know what I mean? I am submitting the question to the Holy Spirit, because He is the one who knows. God bless |