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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Searching for the truth |
Bible Note: George, I would like to make two points if I may.. First, your statement here confirms the 'consideration' of schmythe is unscriptureal. "So… I seriously doubt that Enoch and Elijah were taken up by Jesus, for He hadn’t even been born yet. Thus, this occurrence is irrelevant to the fact that “says the only way to the Father is through Jesus.”" He had not yet paid the price for man's sins so Enoch and Elizah were still under the curse of the law of sin and death, still under the Old Covenant, unredeemed. My second point is that when someone comes to the forum who is searching for an answer, even through speculation, their speculations should be responded to with scripture and not animosity, despite how they may be 'coming across'. We should make every effort to set the example. Speculation is the way some go at learning... Thirdly, based on the truth set forth that it is not likely Jesus came and took them because scripture tells us He had no become the redeemer until death burial and resurrection..So the scripture can't be broken...How can Enoch and Elizah be translated based on Romans 5:14-17? They were under the same curse, they were definitely men..Enoch had children... I agree these two may very well be the two witnesses...but how did they escape the curse? Forgive me if you have given a clear response to this already, I may have missed a post the post. If so, just direct me to it or copy and paste it to this note. God bless |