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NASB | Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 6:6 We know that our old self [our human nature without the Holy Spirit] was nailed to the cross with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin. |
Subject: Two Natures or One? |
Bible Note: Two questions, Tim. Do you, "LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH."? and do you, "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"? Don't bother to answer, please, I know I don't, and I know you don't. Now, whatever you want to call it, either it be the old man, or wretched man, or or double nature, or Jekyll-Hyde, or wether you don't choose to name it at all; which seems to be your preference. We have it, and we are stuck with it, and as long as we are wearing this old tent, this skin, this flesh; we will continue to struggle, internally, with this problem. NO one is saying we are not new creatures, NO one is saying that the old man has not been crucified, etc; but facts are facts, and we all know, as honest Christians that, we sometimes struggle with sin, and you at least have admitted to that. (I think?)? So, in summery: Thank you Tim, but I for one am not looking forward to more on this subject. It has been discussed from both sides now, at great length, from many different angels, and I can see plainly you are not budging, nor are those, myself included, who oppose your view. I also believe very strongly at this point, if I were to refute your view, once again; as I and others have already done; I fear we would be crossing the line, pushing our doctrine, and only doing that which is a violation of the TOU. (Terms Of Use) So, out of respect for this, and all who may be reading along, let us cease striving with one-another, at least for a while, okay Tim? :-) I think at this point; any way you slice it, we are at a crossroads where we are going nowhere fast. If you don't mind Tim, my friend, I'd really appreciate it if we put this one to bed. So, In plain english, strait talk, Tim, please stop. John |