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1 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | EdB | 127313 | ||
Ancient here is the the answers to your questions 1) As God is the same yesterday today and forever, and God's methodology in instituting commandments is always quite detailed, should this not be the case in the New Testament as well? Ans: Let’s look at just a few of the exceptions to your premise. Matthew 28:19-20, John 7:16 Acts 1:7 Act 2:38, 1 Cor 11:27 and 1 Cor 11:29 2) If the Hebrews passage is a commandment, what are the specific parameters of this commandment? How often? Where? How many people should be attending? What day does this passage prescribe? Ans: Where does it say a commandment has to have parameters? If I tell you to pick up a stone is that not a command? Do I have to say pick up every stone, or one stone three times a day before it becomes a commandment? I think not! 3) If Hebrews does not have parameters to follow, then is it really a commandment, according to the examples given in the past of God's lawmaking? How are we supposed to follow when we aren't told how? Or shall we just decide on our own what the parameters should be? Ans: Once again is the absence of parameters proof there is no commandment? What are the parameters on love you neighbor as yourself? Once again you say command must have parameters again I say “Pick up a stone “: is very much a command and it carries not parameters. 4) In what way do you consider love, being all encompassing, to have potential for failure when Corinthians says that love never fails? Ans: Love for God and love for each other prevents us from disobeying his commandments. Love is the motivator, obedience is the result, commandments are direction setters. 5) What thing that I have said has given you the impression that we should love only in word, doing anything else however we please, as opposed to loving in deed and truth, as described in Corinthians? Ans: You have said you do only what you determine is correct irregardless of what anyone else says. You have mocked the church, orthodoxy and said, “…I see something many don't see. Maybe that makes me wrong. Maybe that makes me special. Who knows which.” 6) If all commandments we have are summed up by love, are derived from love, and are fulfilled by love, then what commandments do you suggest do not fall within these parameters without contradicting scripture? Ans: Again love is the motivator not the conclusion. I can love the pieces out of something but still do it harm. How many mercy killings are proof of this. Your taking love an emotion a motivator and trying to make it the end all. It isn’t it is what we do with and how we show that love that matters. 7) If love is once again the fulfillment of the law and from where the law is derived, then in what way does attendance at a church building adhere to this commandment or exhortation in Hebrews that cannot also be adhered to through a Bible study of five or six people? Ans: Love is not the fullfillment but rather a motivator of keeping the law. Jesus said the law hangs on these not that they are fulfilled by love. It takes action and obedience to fulfill the law. 8) Jesus said that where two or three are gathered in his name, he is there in their midst. At what point did two or three gathered become inadequate in favor of a church congregation? Ans: I never argued that point. I just said Hebrews 10:25 clearly tells us to gather together. However even Jesus recognized the fact it took 12 to make a synagogue. 9) With our present availability to as many as twenty bible translations, interlinear bibles, concordances, online websites, history books, a voice of our own to raise in song, radios to sing along to, homes to gather together, and dozens of commentaries and other books on various topics ... what thing can we not accomplish at our home that can only be accomplished at church? Ans: We can not fellowship with others at home, we are called to exhort encourage and edify. We are called to teach preach and baptize, We are call to be witnesses. All of which is impossible locked in our own little homes. 10) What thing makes you believe that going to church is a commandment when loving your neighbor, in truth not word, fulfills the law regardless of going to church? Ans: Again where does it say love fulfills the law? We are not under the law by grace which merely means the law and our keeping of it or not will not effect our salvation. However the law is still in place and still should be our standard for living. In all of this I fail to see you point. Your point is the only law is to love and if we do that everything else is okay. EdB |
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2 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127321 | ||
Ed, I am greatful that you have answered my questions. Since you have shown me the courtesy, I would return it in kind, point by point as you have given me. 1) Statement: Let’s look at just a few of the exceptions to your premise. Matthew 28:19-20, John 7:16 Acts 1:7 Act 2:38, 1 Cor 11:27 and 1 Cor 11:29. Answer: In what way do the passages cited lack the necessary detail to accomplish the task in what is said? I looked at each example you gave, and I found no commandment listed that was not given parameters so it could be followed. Seeing this, I find no exceptions to my premise. 2) Statement: Where does it say a commandment has to have parameters? If I tell you to pick up a stone is that not a command? Do I have to say pick up every stone, or one stone three times a day before it becomes a commandment? I think not! Answer: How can you keep a commandment if you don't know what it is or how to perform it? If you tell me to pick up a stone, and this is a command, I will pick up "a stone," as you did not give me parameters, and any stone would have satisfied the requirements of the non-specific command. If you tell me to pick one specific stone, but fail to specify which one it is, how am I to perform what you ask? So in the case of Hebrews, if this is a command, and the existing parameters are "don't stop assembling," then taking the available parameters provided, I am adhering to this teaching, exhortation, or commandment if I assemble with at least one other person in my home, at the mall, in the park, or anywhere else. Further, I can assemble any day I choose, once a week, once a month, or once a year. The passage simply does not say. So if we are to keep this "command," how can we do so without parameters? Unless it is not a command, but exhortation, and up to us to decide when, where, how, and how often. 3) Statement: Once again is the absence of parameters proof there is no commandment? What are the parameters on love you neighbor as yourself? Once again you say command must have parameters again I say "Pick up a stone" is very much a command and it carries not parameters. Answer: Either the absence of parameters is evidence there is no commandment, or we have a commandment that can be followed as we choose to follow it. "Pick up a stone" carries parameters. The command is to pick up an unspecified stone. This can be satisfied by picking up any random stone. The parameters of love: Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. I find that these parameters suffice for the sake of this discussion. See 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. 4) Statement: Love for God and love for each other prevents us from disobeying his commandments. Love is the motivator, obedience is the result, commandments are direction setters. Answer: Love for God and love for each other prevents us from disobeying his commandments. This is all that needed to be said. Although, it didn't really answer the question. Love does not have potential for failure. It seems we are agreeing on this, yes? That it does not? 5) Statement: You have said you do only what you determine is correct irregardless of what anyone else says. You have mocked the church, orthodoxy and said, "…I see something many don't see. Maybe that makes me wrong. Maybe that makes me special. Who knows which." Answer: I do see something many don't see. I feel blessed. I will continue to do only what I determine is correct, regardless of what anyone else says. I will try the spirits in love, and the Spirit will show me what is true and what is not. [1st John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.] Continued ... |
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