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1 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127278 | ||
Okay Ed, I'm going to be open minded and give you the opportunity to instruct me. This is a genuine offer of meekness. Please answer or expound on the following: 1) As God is the same yesterday today and forever, and God's methodology in instituting commandments is always quite detailed, should this not be the case in the New Testament as well? 2) If the Hebrews passage is a commandment, what are the specific parameters of this commandment? How often? Where? How many people should be attending? What day does this passage prescribe? 3) If Hebrews does not have parameters to follow, then is it really a commandment, according to the examples given in the past of God's lawmaking? How are we supposed to follow when we aren't told how? Or shall we just decide on our own what the parameters should be? 4) In what way do you consider love, being all encompassing, to have potential for failure when Corinthians says that love never fails? 5) What thing that I have said has given you the impression that we should love only in word, doing anything else however we please, as opposed to loving in deed and truth, as described in Corinthians? 6) If all commandments we have are summed up by love, are derived from love, and are fulfilled by love, then what commandments do you suggest do not fall within these parameters without contradicting scripture? 7) If love is once again the fulfillment of the law and from where the law is derived, then in what way does attendance at a church building adhere to this commandment or exhortation in Hebrews that cannot also be adhered to through a Bible study of five or six people? 8) Jesus said that where two or three are gathered in his name, he is there in their midst. At what point did two or three gathered become inadequate in favor of a church congregation? 9) With our present availability to as many as twenty bible translations, interlinear bibles, concordances, online websites, history books, a voice of our own to raise in song, radios to sing along to, homes to gather together, and dozens of commentaries and other books on various topics ... what thing can we not accomplish at our home that can only be accomplished at church? 10) What thing makes you believe that going to church is a commandment when loving your neighbor, in truth not word, fulfills the law regardless of going to church? Let us start here. If you respond with a bit of humility instead of insults, I will continue to discuss this. If you respond with more name calling or "you don't know what you're talking about" comments, then I will put this topic to rest unresolved. Whether or not I receive the instruction you wish to give will be entirely dependent upon your ability to behave like a Christian. Fair enough? Ancient |
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2 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | EdB | 127282 | ||
Ancient Once again you argue over what is a commandment, how is stated, what parameters does it contain. Let me ask you a simple question why did God give us the Bible. Was it not for instructions for life? Let me address one point you brought up point 9. what can we accomplish at church was can't at home. How about compassion for one another? How about accountability to one another? How about edifying and encouraging and exhorting one another? How about being committed enough to put into deeds what we often pay lip service too. You come back to love and again I say I understand the importance of love but I also understand that God loved us enough to have his faithful men and women set down His Word before us. When my human father gave me advice I followed it. The older I got and more mature I got the more I was willing to follow it. When I was a child my father commanded me to bathe. As I got older it was no longer a ‘command’ but rather an admonishment I would follow. However I imagine if I never bathed he would sooner or later demand I did. God wrote the Old Testament to people that didn't know and love him through adoption as children. He therefore wrote in a commanding way. However in the New Testament we are sons and daughters and hopefully have matured enough in our walk with God to take his advice as though it were a commandment. You keep going back to salvation on this issue and I have repeatedly said I don't believe our salvation directly hinges on whether or not we go to church. However I think our willingness to accept an admonishment from God as though it were a command does speak of our relationship with God. The thing that really amazes me is each time I talk to someone that does not attend church they give me your points 1 through 10. However once they get in church and find a loving Savior they never give those arguments again. Your point 10 “What thing makes you believe that going to church is a commandment when loving your neighbor, in truth not word, fulfills the law regardless of going to church?” I guess if I was looking only to fulfill the law I might say love is enough, however if I was looking to do what my Lord and Master has asked of me I would keep the rest of the Bible. However I don’t look at church attendance as requirement but rather a privilege and privilege that only a Christian can truly appreciate and enjoy. EdB |
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3 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127300 | ||
Ed, you are underestimating how powerful love is. It is the primary thing, and it accomplishes the fullest extent of the law. I don't think you are understanding this thing. Think on it for a while. Now, this 1-10 list is not a list of excuses. They are valid questions. I have every right to ask them if you are going to lay a commandment in my lap that is not clearly stated as a commandment, but instead given as an exhortation. If you REALLY want to teach me something, as I am giving you a sincere and genuine opportunity to do; I am open-minded to hear what you have to say, and to weigh it, and I am prepared to change my views if your arguement proves true. But I insist that you answer my questions and stop avoiding them. If you can't answer them, I will be forced to assume that you cannot, and under such circumstances, I will have no choice but to remain unconvinced of your arguements. Now, do you want to convince me or not? I'm ready to listen, but you must provide some answers to the very reasonable questions I have asked you before we can properly continue. Otherwise we are arguing over nothing more than opinion, conjecture, and the interpretation of a passage that we already disagree on. I did hear what you said in this last post, as you are tempering it down a bit, but I once again insist that you answer, else this conversation cannot be properly discussed. Ancient |
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