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1 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | EdB | 127123 | ||
ancient If you want context lets look at context.Hebrews 10:19-27 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, [20] by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, [21] and having a High Priest over the house of God, [22] let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. [23] Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. [24] And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, [25] not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. [26] For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, [27] but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Read in context assembling together as in church does become a commandment, starting in verse 23 and separated as items Paul gives us a list to live by. EdB |
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2 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127138 | ||
EdB, I disagree with your interpretation of this passage, but thank you for responding with your input. I gave it fair consideration, but do not see a commandment there so much as I see advice. We'll have to agree to disagree. With love, Ancient |
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3 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | EdB | 127148 | ||
Anicent Okay let’s called it advice. Who is offering it? Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Why? To bring us into closer relationship with Christ. Why? So we will mature in Christ. Why? So we will become servant worthy enough to hear well done good and faithful servant. If I told you not to play with my gun as it was loaded and you might discharge it. Would you call that as merely advice or would you see that as something that might convey life and death? While in the technical aspect of language it might not be considered a commandment but certainly it is more than just mere advice casually thrown out for whosoever will. I'm getting very tired of all this all you have to do to be a Christian is just believe. Baloney, Jesus very clearly said if you love me you will keep my commandments. We are called to light and salt not manby and pamby. This easy believism has infiltrated all aspects of the church. I hear over and over there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus. Why isn't there any? Is it because being in Christ they have no law, no standard to live by? Or is it because if they are truly in Christ Jesus they will do nothing that brings condemnation upon them. We have invented this new religion instead of serving God and walking holy before him, we instead wordsmith scripture to fit our desired life style. If anyone calls us on it we simply reply that is not how I see it and I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Fine just make sure you don't compromise yourself out of a relationship with Christ and take someone else with you. You basically said there is no commandment to attend church. Are you willing to stand before God and answer for all those that read this and took it as permission not to ever attend church? What about the parent or grandparent that has been trying to get their loved one to church and had them nearly convinced then they read your pontification on this subject? Are you prepared to have their blood upon you? People this is more than philosophical debates, scripture tells us we will give account for EVERY word we speak. EdB |
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4 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127171 | ||
EdB, I wanted to be nice about this subject, but I feel that you are insulting me now. The answer to your question is yes. I would gladly stand before God and tell him that the commandment of Jesus Christ was to love one another, so that all men will know that we are his disciples. Going to church, while a good and worthwhile thing, is not a commandment. You say that it is. I disagree with you. I do not disagree in order to suit a lifestyle. I disagree because it is not a commandment. Further, you are putting words in my mouth. I have stated clearly in all of my posts on this subject that I am an advocate for going to church. I think a person should. I think, however, that they should go because they want to, not because they have to. And as far as these commandments go, let us look at what the commandments are: A lawful person keeps the law. A lawless person does not keep the law. The law is comprised of 700-some-odd commandments according to a preacher I once spoke to. I really believe this is where it gets complicated for most people. With that many commandments, and each equating to murder if you violate it, how can we ever live up to it? We can't. That is why we had to die to the law [Romans 7:4-6 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were by the law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.], under the law, that we might be freed from the law and the sin that it occasions [Romans 7:7-11 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.]. That's why we are not under the law anymore in the sense of 700-some-odd commandments. Because none of us were able to live up to it in our former lives without Christ, we had to die to be free. In baptism, we go down in imitation of the death of Christ, and come up in the newness of life. When we accept Christ, we die, but because he died to be the propitiation for our sins, we don't pay the ultimate penalty of spiritual death. Instead, we are resurrected with him to live a new life, and this new life is not subject to the laws of the flesh. It is subject to the law of the Spirit, which is the intent that drives the law. [Romans 6:4-7 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in the newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin.] So what then? If we are dead to the law, and no longer subject to it, how then can we keep what is not there? Shall we kill since we are not subject to the commandments of the law? Certainly not. We are slaves to do righteousness (slaves to do the right thing). Shall we steal because we are not subject to the commandments of the law? Certainly not. Again, we are slaves to do the right thing. While some maintain the idea that there is no law at all, I would point out that we are to keep the "law of Christ." [Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.] There is still a law that must be kept. Again, [Galatians 6:2 Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.] (Emphasis at this point on the existence of the "Law of Christ"). Continued ... |
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