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1 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | FytRobert | 89487 | ||
Hi, According to the Bible, the penality for sin is death.Therefore, every human being must die! Did God make an exception for Elijah to escape death? Your comments, please. With Love in Christ. |
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2 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | JahPickney | 89488 | ||
According to scriptures, when Christ returns,the dead in Christ shall rise first, then those who are still alive will meet Jesus. So Elijah will not be the only one to escape death. Also in Genesis 5:24, Enoch was also taken by God. | ||||||
3 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89515 | ||
Death of the body is not what this scripture refers to. If it were, once you died, the penalty for your sins would be paid. The death the scripture refers to here is "Eternal Damnation in the lake of fire." If I am not badly mistaken, this is also refered to as the second death. George |
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4 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | JahPickney | 89609 | ||
From what i have read in full context, those who have died (sleep) in the Lord will be ressurected upon his coming. Then we which who are 'alive' will meet them in the air (from the KJV). We shall not go before those who have died in Christ Jesus. If you have any other scriptural references, please send. God Bless Richard |
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5 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89659 | ||
The dead in Christ shall rise first. Anyone claiming any other gospel is a false prophit. However... This has nothing to do with your original question, which was: "According to the Bible, the penality for sin is death.Therefore, every human being must die! Did God make an exception for Elijah to escape death? Your comments, please." --- If you are seriously asking a question, I have given you the biblical answer, which was; "Death of the body is not what this scripture refers to. If it were, once you died, the penalty for your sins would be paid. The death the scripture refers to here is "Eternal Damnation in the lake of fire." If I am not badly mistaken, this is also referred to as the second death." --- What you have just stated was totally out of context with your original question. Since it has already been answered, any further discussion on this particular question would be senseless. God Bless George |
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6 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | FytRobert | 89699 | ||
Hi George, Thank you for your response but my question is as stated in the post, repeated hereunder. "Did God make an exception for Elijah to escape death?" If the answear is "yes" then the inevitable simple question will ensue. Why did God make the exception? With your admirable knowledge of God's word, I am sure you will be able to enlighten me further. With Love in Christ. FytRobert |
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7 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | Schmythe | 89716 | ||
Maybe I can help a little. Romans 6: 23 "for the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord." Now just looking at the first part it says that if we sin we will die. That's all there is to it so for someone not to die they must be sinless. Before we return to Elijah I would like to point out he was not the only one to be taken in his bodily form. Another was Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It says in Genesis 5: 24 "He enjoyed a close relationship with God throughout his life. Then suddenly, he disappeared because God took him." Now also we can, i feel, safely assume that to walk close with God is to follow his will. And His will is not to sin. So, we can once again assume that Enoch did not sin. Hence death was not given to him for his sins. If we follow this same reasoning it must also be assumed that Elijah lived his life without sinning. On a slight side note, in Revolation 11: 3 it says, "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." One of these could possibly be Elijah that God will call into service during these times. However this is just a speculation and I have no way to prove it. I hope that helps a little, sorry if not. God bless. |
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8 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89775 | ||
Schmythe I tend to agree with the latter portion of your post rather than the first. As you said. We can only speculate as to the witness, HOWEVER, "ALL HAVE SINED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OG GOD." this blows your first thought out of the water. Our Savior was "without blemish;" PERFECT. As was posted in not so many words in this thread earlier (I think it was EdB. Please, someone correct me if I am wrong,) Who is to say that that Enoch and Elijah's deaths weren't simply delayed? As, the Lord had more for those two (nearly perfect) saints to complete. George |
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9 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | Schmythe | 89777 | ||
first off, when using the Bible you might want to make sure you spell things right, especially when trying to MAKE A POINT. I wasn't trying to disprove this statement. I was simply trying to write my opinion down. Also I wanted to tell you that I do like your point about the death being that spent in eternal fire and damnation. Another point that I think might be over looked is that in theory Jesus could have come to these men. Since it says the only way to the Father is through Jesus, this may have allowed him to take them up. I would be interested to know what you think in regards to this. Also I have read other posts by you and I must say you do seem to speek with a spiritual knowledge. I pray that what you pass on brings others closer to God. God bless. | ||||||
10 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89794 | ||
Actually Schmythe, I am often a phonetic speller. I may spell it like it sounds; I may even hit a wrong key and overlook it when I proof read. The truth of the matter is that perhaps my spell checker (which I don't always use,) which happens to be man made is less than perfect; for it still finds no misspellings in the post you responded to. I do believe that, (Lord willing,) I manage to get my point across in an biblical and legible manor. It would take me a week to point out all the typo's I've overlooooked in this thread alone. But rather, I prefer to try to see around my "mote," and in my ignorant way, do my best to help those who will hopefully one day help others find their way to He who, I hope is the Ultimate goal of all who read my imperfect words. I often copy and paste as well. I do not make any attempt of corrections therein. Thank you for your kind and uplifting words. I pray that if you ever read anything from my hand that you consider out of line with the Holy Bible, you will challenge me to provide a scriptural foundation for what I have worded. Who knows, we may both learn something. I will be the first to admit ignorance when confronted by truth. As far as I am concerned, “If it can’t be backed with scripture, it’s only opinion.” Some are interesting. Some aren’t worth the paper they are written on. At the risk of sounding BLUNT; I ask no forgiveness, but I could care less about yours or anyone else’s opinion when it comes to the word of God. Where the Word is concerned, I try not to form opinions. I do however have theories where my biblical studies are lacking, but at the risk of flaunting my ignorance, I prefer to keep my mouth shut till I am sure of my theory. Per Webster Opinion: a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter Theory: the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another. Thanks And God Bless George |
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11 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | Schmythe | 89799 | ||
I apologize for not including scriptural reference for that last part. Also i did not mean the spelling part as an attack and I apologise, now that i read it it does seem a little rude, so i would once again like to ask your forgiveness for that. As you can see my spelling is never perfect either. nor am I, that is why i do enjoy listening to other's interpretations of the bible, perhaps they have seen something I have missed. But now on the subject of Jesus being with Elijah. John 1: 1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." I think we can both agree that Jesus is eternal and has been with God and in God since the beginning. Now here is the part where we may differ. Genesis 3: 8 "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden." Now it is my interpretation that this is God in his physical form, which is Jesus. This is where I gain my belife that God (Jesus) was walking with them. Finally it says in Exodus 33: 20 "But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live." The only way it is possible for us to see God is in the form of Jesus. Genesis 5: 24 "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away." If he had seen God the father, he surely would have died, so it must have been Jesus who came down to take him away. I hope this is a little better explained than before. God bless and once again i apologize for my tempermental answer earlier. |
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12 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89838 | ||
Very interesting. But what about Moses, whos contenance was such that no one could look on him, and he literally had to cover his face after his visit with the Lord. And then there is Jacob, who "wrestled with the Lord. There was someone else who said, " I have seen thy face and lived. It is only icing on top of the cake. Brothers with differing opinions are still brothers. George |
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13 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | Schmythe | 89840 | ||
well Moses did not see his face. Exodus 33: 20-23 "But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live." 21 Then the LORD said, "There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen." the explination for Jacob, could be that it was Jesus. But yes you are right, although we may dissagree on these issues we are still brothers in Christ. May God bless you, and provide you with the knowledge that only he may give. |
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