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1 | Two Natures or One? | Rom 6:6 | Nevvvvine | 209943 | ||
Hi Val:: Thank you for your welcome I'm glad you enjoy them, I enjoy discussing the things of the Lord. (you say) 1) "I tend to disagree with and that is at the point when one becomes "saved". 2) "Only God knows when that point is in a believer's life." 3) "Baptism is a reflection of that point" (answer) If I may, when one becomes "saved". and "Only God knows when that point is in a believer's life." I believe we can be witnesses to a persons salvation, because it is an outward sign that they believe. Rom. 10:9 That (if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,) and (shalt believe in thine heart) that God hath raised him from the dead, (thou shalt be saved.) Now if you are going to point at the believing in the "heart" let me then put this forward. 1 Cor. 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Baptism, is the part where everyone gets their tails in a knot;-( There are only two times "regeneration" is used in the bible. Mat. 19:28 and Tit. 3:5 (Not by works of righteousness which we have done,) (but according to his mercy he saved us,) (by the washing of regeneration,) and (renewing of the Holy Ghost;) Act. 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. At this point the washing of regeneration sure sounds like baptism, "If it walks like a duck" I have looked, I cant find any scriptures for the doctrine of Regeneration. It may sound nice, but that doesn't quite fit my criteria for a doctrinal belief. The word "renewing" is only used two times as well, Tit. 3:5 above, and Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: (but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,) (that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.) So it appears we are washed, regenerated, and renewed all at the same time. What then is being (saved, regenerated, born again)? Is being (saved, Regenerated, born again) the same thing? When we say we are (saved) what are we saved from? When we say we are (saved) are we (regenerated, born again) at the same time? When we say we are (regenerated, born again) what are we (regenerated, born again) unto, or for? Are we (saved) form eternal damnation in the lake of fire? It doesn't matter if you keep believing what you do, and I do the same, neither one of us will lose our salvation because of these beliefs. But without any rancor between us because of our differing beliefs, we continue to have a meaningful discourse on the things of God, then we are keeping the Unity of the Spirit, as we have been told to do. It means one of us has been given more light than the other, and that person should not put a stumbling block before his brother. causing him to fall because of the liberty that one has. One believes one day is Holy, another believes all days are. Your Brother in Christ Blessings on You Nevvvvine |
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2 | Two Natures or One? | Rom 6:6 | BradK | 209948 | ||
Hello Newwine, Since your post is rather lengthy and poses numerous questions, might I ask for clarification on a couple? 1. You note that, "At this point the washing of regeneration sure sounds like baptism, "If it walks like a duck" Can you clarify or elaborate your understanding of Tit. 3:5? It would appear you uphold baptismal regeneration? 2.You state, "I have looked, I cant find any scriptures for the doctrine of Regeneration. It may sound nice, but that doesn't quite fit my criteria for a doctrinal belief." Are you denying the work of regeneration? What is your "criteria" for a doctrinal belief? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Two Natures or One? | Rom 6:6 | Nevvvvine | 209956 | ||
Hi BradK:: Thanks for the interest. It is true I do uphold baptismal regeneration, but I feel more comfortable saying Born Again. Because I do, I feel that this also answers questions 1, and 2 . But because you asked for an elaboration, the "washing of regeneration" spoken of in Tit. 3 to me says baptism. Have a Blessed day Your Brother in Christ Nevvvvine |
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4 | Two Natures or One? | Rom 6:6 | stjohn | 209964 | ||
Dear Newwine: Welcome to the forum.. The verse you cited does indeed refer to regeneration by washing. However this is not water baptism, but the baptism of the Holy Spirit, by the word of God working in the, heart of the listener to bring about salvation and thus we are "Born Again". Water Baptism has no value in spiritual regeneration. Eph 5:25-27 is a good illustration of this as it shows us how Christ loves His bride, The Church, and washes her with the water of the, Word of God. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the [washing of water with the word], that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. Eph 5:25-27 [Brackets] added for emphasis God bless John |
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