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1 | God repented | Rom 1:18 | Reformer Joe | 20890 | ||
Johnny: You wrote: "What I mean Joe, is If I am going to eat steak in my breakfast and not beacon, because I want beacon and not because God who plan that I am going to eat steak and not beacon. This is my stand." Have your steak...your decision, and God's decree to let you have your steak. You wrote: "If I am not mistaken (correct me if I am wrong) Your believed is from the beginning everything that will happened to anyone because it was God's plan. Meaning if in this year 2001 when someone become a prostitute becuase it the plan of God to them. And there is no single happened to anyone outside God's plan." You are mixing up what happens to us (like getting hit by a stray baseball) with decisions we make (e.g. whether or not we become prostitutes). What happens to us beyond our control is God's sovereign plan. What we do that opposes God's moral will (that is, sinning) is not something that God WANTS us to do, but in his sovereignty He allows us to do it, and has already factored in our sinning into His sovereign plan. He doesn't morally desire for someone to become a prostitute, but He knows that such a decision will be made before the prostitute does and has decreed that it will happen. God's decree is not merely what He morally wishes for us to do, but also what he allows us to do. If we purpose in our hearts that we will sin, God in his sovereignty will control how and when that sin is expressed and will limit the effects of that sin according to His decree. In the case of Noah, we see from a human perspective that God was grieved at what he saw. Are we then to conclude that he didn't know that the world was going to get that bad? There is a whole branch of really bad theology out there called open theism, which basically says that God doesn't know the future. Assuming that you believe God knew the world would get that bad, when did he know that? From eternity past. Could God have prevented the world from getting that bad? Absolutely. Why didn't He? That's a good question, but the fact remains that He always knew the world would become extremely wicked and that He would take the action that He did. Johnny, if we have a God who is really changing His mind based on what people do, then He either doesn't know the future actions of men or He isn't a very decisive and all-wise God. The nature of human beings when they are born is to rebel against God in everything that they do. God changes the hearts of some and lets others suffer their just condemnation. Left to our own natural selves, sinners will do things that displease God, but He allows them to do so within certain boundaries and uses their sinful intent for His glory. And that is God's decree. --Joe! |
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2 | God repented | Rom 1:18 | jlpangilinan | 21400 | ||
Joe, I agree on this, I beleived that God knew what happened to the future. What I am not accepting from you when you said that the flood in the time of Noah is truly a plan of God. I dont believed that God orchestrated everything so He can bring flood to these people. Johnny |
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