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1 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Morant61 | 20858 | ||
Counter View.................................... Greetings Lionstrong! It is good to hear from you again! I just have one problem with your interpretation. God's message, through Jonah, said specifically that He WOULD destroy them in 40 days. In fact, He didn't even attach a condition to this statement. He didn't say, "I will destroy you in 40 days unless you repent." You focused in whether or not Jonah knew that Ninevah would repent, but that really isn't the issue. The issue is that in Jonah 3:4, God specifically states His intentions toward Ninevah. So, if it was never God's intention to destory Nivevah, how this statement be true? The statement, "I will overthrow you in 40 days", cannot be true if God never actually intended to destroy them. Verse 3:9 makes it clear that they viewed the result of this overthrow to be their deaths. Now, I agree with you statemtent that Jonah knew that God was merciful. He didn't want to warn Nivevah because he knew that they might repent and that God might relent (4:2). But, this is clearly a change in action on God's part in response to man's reaction to Him. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20944 | ||
Num 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? Mal 3:6 "For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. Dear Tim, can you say “anthropopathism?” God is immutable. So whenever you read Scripture where it says God changed his mind, or repented or relented it is an (now say it with me) anthropopathism. Re-read my post, dear Tim. The focus is not as you say on whether or not Jonah knew that Ninevah would repent. The focus was on Jonah’s SUSPECION of God’s plan to grant repentance to Ninevah. Your misreading my post demonstrates, maybe, the Arminian tendency to make God’s plans dependent on man’s will. The whole book is predicated on the plan of God to grant repentance to the Ninevites. Jonah understood that his proclamation might have the unspoken “if” clause. That’s why he didn’t want to go! But he wasn't told to preach the “if” clause. I would even hazard to suggest that if God had told Jonah to include the if clause or if he told Jonah his plan to grant them repentance, Jonah’s abhorrence of Ninevah would have caused him to accept death from the hand of God rather than go. Jonah was not afraid of the sting of death, evidenced by his willingness to die in order to save the ship. So, God did not reveal his intent to Jonah, and Jonah went with the hope that his message had no hidden “if” clause. Peace, Lionstrong |
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3 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Morant61 | 20947 | ||
Greetings Lionstrong! Anthropopathism! Anthropopathism! Say it! I can barely spell it! ;-) May I be friendly, but blunt? Jonah 3:4 has no "if" in it! In fact, the word "if" doesn't appear in the entire book (at least in the NIV)! God said through Jonah, "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned." (Jonah 3:4) Either God meant it or it was a lie! I don't belive it was a lie (for as you pointed out - God can't lie). Therefore, He must have meant it. He didn't do it. Therefore, something changed. Nivevah repented! Are we allowed to simply add an "if" where there is none? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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