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1 | A Wonderful Plan? How do you know? | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20259 | ||
In other words how can my Arminian brother tell an unbeliever that God loves him and has a wonderful plan for his life? Does he know what plans God has for his life? And if the Almighty Soveriegn God has plans, who can change them? Can the Almighty's plans be frustrated by a mere man? Is 14:27 "For the LORD of hosts has planned, and who can frustrate it? And as for His stretched-out hand, who can turn it back?" Peace, Lionstrong |
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2 | A Wonderful Plan? How do you know? | Rom 1:18 | jlpangilinan | 20270 | ||
Lionstrong, We know that God's love every human being, and God has plan for every creature. Your question is if God has plan who can change it? you, you can even change the plan for God for you because of your free will. Do you think the plan of God for Adam and Eve is to eat that forbidden fruit? Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. but it was happend? Do you think part of plan of God that Lucufer become his opposer? but its happened. Do you think it is part of the plan of God that Judas will betray Him, if you said yes, and your God is not fair. So i think if God has plan for you dont accept his plan you can change it. For example God has a plan that you leave long here in this world but if you are going to jump from 100 floor of any building God will not stop you. Johnny |
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3 | A Wonderful Plan? How do you know? | Rom 1:18 | Reformer Joe | 20527 | ||
Johnny: You wrote: "You can even change the plan for God for you because of your free will." So God is not sovereign, but rather is dependent upon his creation? Show me where man frustrates the plan of God from Scripture. "Many plans are in a man's heart, But the counsel of the LORD will stand." --Proverbs 19:21 You wrote: "Do you think it is part of the plan of God that Judas will betray Him, if you said yes, and your God is not fair." I would be careful how you refer to our just and holy God. Let's look at what the Bible says: Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?" --John 6:70 Jesus chose his betrayer. "Then that which was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: "AND THEY TOOK THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER, THE PRICE OF THE ONE WHOSE PRICE HAD BEEN SET by the sons of Israel" --Matthew 27:9 The payment for Judas' betrayal was prophesied centuries before. "The Son of Man is to go, just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." --Matthew 26:24 The crucifixion of Jesus was planned by God, and the betrayal was an intergral part of that plan. "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him." --John 6:64 Getting the picture? FROM THE BEGINNING Jesus knew and chose one who would offer him up to those intending to kill him. The sin was Judas', but it was part of God's plan. You wrote: "So i think if God has plan for you dont accept his plan you can change it. For example God has a plan that you leave long here in this world but if you are going to jump from 100 floor of any building God will not stop you." Where is the Biblical support for this? These are nothing more than your (wrong) opinions and have no basis in the Bible. Show me just one example of God's revealed, stated plan for an individual being ruined because that individual "changed it." You won't find one, because our God is the sovereign Lord and not subjected to the whim of men. --Joe! |
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4 | God's Plan? | Rom 1:18 | jlpangilinan | 20635 | ||
I know you read Genesis. What is the plan of God for Adam and Eve? We know that to live forever and ever in the paradise, they will not going to die, they have no sickness, but what happened when they ate that forbidden fruit? they die! Do you think it is part of God that they will eat that forbidden fruit? Why God warn them? Do you think the warning of God for them is just a trick because no matter what they have no choice but to eat that fruit because it is part of God's plan. Meaning they have no choice but to eat that fruit because it is part of God's plan. Why God's gave the warning? Ge 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Ge 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 18. Easton Ge 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. If you read those verses God punish Adam and Eve for their disobediece. If eating those fruit it is really part of God's plan, Why God's has to punish them? Do you think God created human so He can put them into the punishment? Could you please answer this! Second I post the question that do you think Lucifer become God's opposer is also part of God's plan? Do you mean God created Lucifer so he will become the Devil? Please answer this! If your answer is Yes! and then you have to accept that it is part of God's plan that to many souls will go to hell part of his plan. Answer this. If you think that all things happen according to God's plan all Bad happened it is Him who was oschestrated. Do you think it part of God's plan that kill people in flood in the time of Noah? Do you think it part of God's plan that He will burn Sodom and Gomorah? Where is the choice of the people to become Good or eveil if all things is oschestrated by God. Meaning We have no choice. Do you think when Saul appopinted by God to become a king of Israel it God also oschestrated saul to become Bad so God can replace him and put David as a new king? What kind of God is that? If all things happened because of God's plan all wars happen in this world God who the one oschestrated! I know war is part of Jesus prophecy in the bible, because He knows it going to happen but it is not mean that He is the one oschestrated it to happen. You also very fast to judge that it is part of my wrong opinions Lu 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Well granting for a while that my opinion is wrong. We all know to many person commit suicide! do you think that is a God's plan fro them to commit suicide? If all things happen because it was God's plan meaning what happen is it God's will so all this wars and shortage of food was a God's will. Why Jesus Christ taught us to pray Our Father? 6:9 ΒΆ After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Mt 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. "It is include thy will be done" Why keep parying it if The will og God is Happened already? Johnny |
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5 | God's Plan? | Rom 1:18 | Reformer Joe | 20639 | ||
Johnny: Adam and Eve, being untainted by original sin, did have free choice. God also knew from the beginning what their choice would be, wouldn't you agree? Therefore, before even creating Adam and Eve, he had in mind His plan of redemption through Jesus Christ for their sin. God's warning for them meant that they knew what the deserved consequences of their action would be once they committed it. "Second I post the question that do you think Lucifer become God's opposer is also part of God's plan? Do you mean God created Lucifer so he will become the Devil? Please answer this!" We have two possible options here: 1. God created Lucifer, not knowing that he would rebel against Him. 2. God created Lucifer, knowing full well that he would rebel against Him. The decision was Lucifer's, but I cannot accept option 1 with an omniscient God. Can you? "If your answer is Yes! and then you have to accept that it is part of God's plan that to many souls will go to hell part of his plan. Answer this." I will let Paul answer for me: "Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath PREPARED for destruction?" --Romans 9:21-22 You wrote: "Do you think when Saul appopinted by God to become a king of Israel it God also oschestrated saul to become Bad so God can replace him and put David as a new king? What kind of God is that?" First of all, Saul didn't BECOME bad. We are all BORN bad. We do not come out of the womb morally neutral, but rather predisposed toward displeasing God in all that we do. And David was already part of the plan, yes. God revealed in Genesis that kings and the Redeemer would come out of the line of Judah. Read Genesis 49:8-10. Saul was of the tribe of Benjamin. Tell me what God's plan was. In addition, Saul was God's choice for king at that time in part to show the folly of Israel wanting a king in the first place. Read 1 Samuel 8. "Do you think it part of God's plan that kill people in flood in the time of Noah?" Whose plan was it if not God's? You wrote: "If all things happened because of God's plan all wars happen in this world God who the one oschestrated! I know war is part of Jesus prophecy in the bible, because He knows it going to happen but it is not mean that He is the one oschestrated it to happen." God does indeed orchestrate wars. God commanded Israel to wage war against the Canaanites in Joshua. Read the book of Jeremiah to see that God does indeed bring about war for His purposes. Read in particular verses like Jeremiah 16:10 and 18:8 and 18:11 amd 19:3 and 19:15 and 23:12. Who is bringing the calamity upon Judah? God. In what form? Invasion from Babylon. Does Babylon intend to serve God by invading Judah? Absolutely not, but their sinful act serves God's purposes. Finally, Johnny, with all due respect, you completely ignored evrything that I brought up in my previous post, most especially those passages from the Bible which clearly support my point. If I am wrong in my assessment of how God has revealed himsefl, please go back to thses verses that I brought up and explain to me how they are not saying what I think they are saying. In other words, what do they really mean? --Joe! |
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6 | Workout your own salvation | Rom 1:18 | jlpangilinan | 20651 | ||
Joe, So if your God is that kind of God, what is the purpose of the people trying to be GOOD? if God dictated anything? What we can do is just wait to die. Because anything you are going to do is useless, we no choices because when the person born it is oschestrated by God what will happen to this person. It is God who choses where our soul will go, either it is in hell or in heaven. I would like to ask you Joe, are going to church on Sunday or what day which you specify? If you tell me that you are did go to church, for what? Why you dont wait whats God's plan for you? Because according to your statement Gods know what will happen to you. So if you do bad or good it is useless, becuase it is God designed your life, and it is God who decide of where your soul will go. Ge 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. Here in this passages, God tested the faith of Abraham, Why God tested the faith of Abraham if he knew it already? Just for fun? it is mentioned here:(for now I know that thou fearest God, I know that God has the power to know everything that He want to know, but I dont think He will try to know first the result of his test to Abraham before He do it, otherwise he is unfair God. Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. it is mentioned in php 2:12 work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Now why we have to workout for our own salvation if our life is designed already? What is the purpose of working out if the output will also the same? Meaning whether you do Good and Bad it is useless because it was designed already what the future of your soul is. Johnny |
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7 | Workout your own salvation | Rom 1:18 | heartfire | 20652 | ||
About that Abraham thing, God tested Abraham's faith so Abraham could progress from faith to faith and glory to glory. It's like impure gold, and you run it through fire to burn up the impurities. Of course, God already knew that Abraham could handle it. But if God had not done that, Abraham's faith would not have been strengthened. Well, let's say, after that experience, Abraham now knows that God will never go back on His promise, no matter what. And anyway, if God had not tested him, there would have been no future in which Abraham would have been obedient. So when it happened, Abraham's obedience was more or less proven, and the devil cannot accuse Abraham anymore. And as for not being able to choose anything, that's not true. God gave us all a free will. That's why there's such a thing as faith and doubt. |
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8 | Workout your own salvation | Rom 1:18 | stjones | 20658 | ||
Hi, Heartfire; I agree with all that you said about God's testing of Abraham; I would like to add to it. How many times have each of observed an act of faith or heroism and wondered if we would do the same? We would like to think we would, but we're not sure. I think God, knowing that Abraham would pass the test, wanted Abraham to know as well. This test allowed Abraham to see for himself the reservoir of faith and courage God had given him. The Bible doesn't record Abraham's emotions or inner thoughts, but surely this knowledge would only strengthen and encourage him. Peace and grace, Steve |
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