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1 | response | Rom 1:18 | userdoe220 | 20563 | ||
Thanks for your perspective on Geisler's book. I, too, felt that Geisler was trying to shape reforemed theology in the image of armenian. Why? I think we might disagree on this, I think Geisler (who is an intellectual) like myself (up for extreme debate on weather I am one) have seen the lack of evidence and the proof text offered by Calvanist to justify their belief in sovereignty and free will debate. I don't pretend to have all the answers on this subject in my back pocket, but was pleased to see Geisler was admitting that he too felt the same way! He pointed out and made an attempt to reconcile some major contradictions in reformed thought. (which I feel was heavily influenced by platonic philosophy not the scriptures.) I will def. check out the book you have recommended after I finally read a book published by an Armenianist author on this issue. I feel 5-0 is pretty lopsided affair and if I am not convinced yet I am not sure I will ever swing over to a reformed approach on this issue. Second comment about scholarship: When you have authors writing about the "lack of scholarship" in the Christian community I have to wonder what their motives are. Are they considering someone to not be a scholar because they don't agree with them on certain issues? Another words the , "If you were a real scholar, you would naturally come to the same conclusions I have concerning God" type books. If so they are just arrogant and not scholars. If not, I might be interested in looking at their books. I too see a lot of nonsense preached from the T.V and pulpits, but don't even attempt to lump them in as people who are even trying to be "scholars" of the Christian faith. In fact they would probably be the first to admit that they are not scholars. In some sense I think the church has too many "scholars" and not enough people actually "doing" the work of the ministry. It seems like all people want to do is debate about what Christianiy is and never practice it ( I don't mind the debate part as long as the other half is equally in place). I asked my pastor recently why he spent 8 years in college to study the scriptures and how to effectively do ministry and he hides in the church 7 days a week and never does what Paul and the other apostles did--witness in the public arenas...interact and challenge the presuppositions of the world today? What are they teaching in those seminaries about ministry? I just don't see the bang for the buck from people I know who have attended. Enough ranting. If you have been to seminary, I would love to know why people that leave are so ineffective in ministry (That might be too general of a statment). They wax eloqount in philosophy and Theology but never seem to get out in the public arena and challenge others. Most of them hide in the churches and preach where it is safe--another words they "Preach to the choir". Why are our best trained servants in the church never put into action? Why do I, someone who has no seminary training, placed on the front lines of evangelism when there is someone in the church that is much better able to answer the criticism that people have to Christianity--the seminary trained pastor? |
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2 | response | Rom 1:18 | Hank | 20645 | ||
Schwartzkm, please allow me to quote a sentence from your post and use it as a springboard for my own fairly brief note and comment that will follow it. You wrote, "In some sense, I think the church has too many 'scholars' and not enough people actually 'doing' the work of ministry."...... Three cheers for that statement! Among the motley dozen whom Jesus chose, how many were scholars, even in the most diluted sense of the word? And Paul, although trained by Gamaliel, a Jewish scholar of the first rank, was himself hardly a denizen of the hallowed halls of academia. And Jesus, a "scholar" by modern definition?..... I don't down-play or degrade the importance of a certain degree of training for ministry nor deny the need for careful scholarship in areas where it is critical as, for example, in Bible translation. But at the same time I feel that scholarship can be, and frequently is, over emphasized and given a place in Christianity today that pushes evangelism, the far more vital business of Christians, into the second rank. --Hank | ||||||
3 | response | Rom 1:18 | userdoe220 | 20661 | ||
George Barna took a survey and found out that today's pastors are Better educated than ever before yet the church is facing its largest decline. Are we getting are money's worth? In my opinion a number of churches are not. I might have been to general. There are well trained seminary pastors that are making a difference. MOst hide in the ivory towers of the church office and never interact with those who are going to a very real, literal Hell. Got to run. |
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