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1 | "am I wrong in thinking that you pray to | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 27496 | ||
Hank, A few other passages that deal with Peter’s unique position among the Apostles are: Luke 22:31-32 “ And the Lord said unto Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has desired to have you that he may sift you as wheat; But I have prayed for you, that your faith does not fail; and when you are converted, strengthen your brethren.” John 21:2, 15-17. In this passage Jesus questions Peter three times whether he loves Him. “Do you love me more than these?” Jesus tells Peter, “feed my lambs…, tend my sheep…, feed my sheep.” He is appointing Peter as the Shepherd of his flock. But he does not address the several other Apostles who are present. It is clear that Peter is to shepherd not only the flock of lambs but also the other sheep. This has been interpreted by some to refer to the laity as lambs, and the clergy as sheep. All including Peter himself are sheep of Christ’s flock with Jesus the ultimate shepherd. But again Jesus is here delegating His authority to Peter to be a shepherd of the flock and the other shepherds. Earlier Jesus had promised the special guidance of the Holy Spirit to guide the Apostles and the Church in all truth. John 14:16-18, 26 and John 16:12-13. It is the Holy Spirit who will preserve the Church and the successors of the Apostles from teaching error. There are too many passages of Scripture Old and New Testament to list indicating the imagery of the shepherd as ruler. But this is the image in which the Apostles are cast by Jesus, with Peter as the chief shepherd by Jesus’ delegation of authority. The other Apostles do have similar authority invested in them by Jesus, but Jesus never gives them the keys nor deals with them in the special individual manor He deals with Peter. Their authority is real but must be in unity with Peter, the guarantor of the unity of the Church on earth by Christ’s investiture. The other Apostles or bishops represent the diversity of the Church and Peter its essential unity. I will not go into all the early Church Fathers who support this general understanding. I will only mention one of the earliest, a successor of Peter who asserted his universal authority over another local Church. That is Clement of Rome whose Letter to the Corinthians some wanted o be included in the Canon of Scripture. In that letter, circa 80-98 A.D., Clement asserted his authority over the Corinthian Church as Peter’s successor. The letter is easily available on any number of web sites. I cite it only because it is so early in the apostolic succession and because some argue that papal authority was an invention of the fifth century. The outward dressing of that authority may have developed over the years but the inner essential has remained the same. The dogmatic formulation was done at the Vatican Council I, 1870 and further refined at Vatican II. ……… |
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2 | "am I wrong in thinking that you pray to | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 27525 | ||
Greetings Emmaus! I've noticed that you have mentioned John 21:2,15-17 in reference to a "unique position" of Peter among his brethren... However, I ask you, how does Matthew 26:69-75 help Peter's standing amongst his fellow disciples? And just how would you reconcile John 21:2,15-17 with Matthew 26:69-75? Isn't it interesting that some things just happen in "threes?" :-) Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3 | "am I wrong in thinking that you pray to | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 27558 | ||
Nolan, Peter's three fold denial and the threefold questioning of Jesus are obviously related. I think also related to those passages is Luke 22:31-32. Jesus redeems the fallen and makes His strength known through the weak by the power of the Holy Spirit. I have often pondered also the different way Peter's story ended compared to that of Judas. Faith in Jesus even in the face of cowardice and failure can lead to repentence and redemption and being lifted up, but despair and lack of faith in the same situation is deadly to body and soul. |
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4 | "am I wrong in thinking that you pray to | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 27699 | ||
Greetings Emmaus! And I would agree! And I really like the conclusion that you came to when you contrasting having faith (Peter) with having no faith at all (Judas). Blessings to you, Nolan |
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