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1 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26202 | ||
Thank you for your response. I have not missed the irony of the context. However, I thought the topic "When did the Catholic Church go wrong" rather odd on scripture discussion forum. Most questions seem to be related to scriptural text. I posted my answer to your question since it was an open minded question with a scriptural answer. Satisfaction with the answer is not guaranteed as recipeients may disagree with the interpretation. Howerever, it is the scriptural answer that the Catholic Church gives and your question was when did the Catholic Church come up with Mary as Queen of Heaven. |
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2 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 26220 | ||
Am I to assume that from this response that you are in full agreement with the thinking that was presented in your post? If this were the case, I wish to apologize for the way that my thread came across, you certainly went to a lot of trouble to present it and I commend you for this. I believe some of the points that you presented with regard to Mary are true and factual without a shadow of doubt; but not knowing Roman Catholicism I must say that not a few of the comments are built upon text taken out of context for a pretext. It is common knowledge that members of the RCC place a lot of faith in those that have passed away, and of course Mary doesn't seem to lack in this respect, along with many others that have passed into the next realm. I am not at all familiar with all the different recipients of the prayers of Catholics and of those that they have faith in them. You certainly seem to know what you are talking about when it comes to Catholicism, so if you don't mind I would like to ask you a question. I know that there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I would like your estimation. Just using Mary as the prime example, what percentage of the totality of your personal faith, would you say, is in Mary, on a scale of one to a hundred? Now consider that everyone else that you have faith in must be in this equation also. Example God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and the many saints that have entered into glory. Again, there is no pat answer, I am just curious about your position because I have never conversed with anyone as knowledgeable as yourself about the Roman Catholic religion. This is not a trick question, because what ever you believe is fine with me I've got nothing to gain either way. CDBJ | ||||||
3 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26244 | ||
My faith is in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity. I relate to Mary and any other saints only in the context that they are in Christ. Without Jesus there is no context or significance. |
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4 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 26281 | ||
If that is the case, am I wrong in thinking that you pray to Mary and if you do, what confidence do you have, or faith or whatever it is that you want to call it, that she hears you and where in the Bible do you get this assurance? Any time that I pray to the Lord I have faith that He hears my prayer and I have faith in Him that He has the power to execute my petition, as He is the one seated on the throne of grace. If I pray to any other then the Lord I would be in direct disobedience to the command of His Word. Hebrews 4:14-16 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. I can have confidence that my prayers are heard because God has given me the record of such. 1 John 5:11-15 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. I can personally say that this assurance did not come to me until I put all my undivided trust in Jesus. Oh yes I had hopes of heaven and eternal life but that wasn't the same as the assurance that I have now. The funny part was that I didn't know that people could have such a confidence on this side of the grave. One never misses something that they have never had! The part I like best is that it doesn't depend on me. God revealed to me that, I didn't do anything to get it and I can't do anything to loose it. Praise the Lord, it's all Him with out others assistance or help!! He's my daddy and I love Him!! Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. I lost my dad in Dec. of 1965 when I was 27 years old and it was just several Month's before that in Oct. that my heavenly Father revealed the truth of His Precious Son to me through Scripture and it came alive! I have never needed a go between for my earthly father and my heavenly Father loves me much more then my earthly father ever could. Any time I need to speak with Him He says that I can come personally right up to His throne when I need help. I can honestly tell you friend that I don't have religion at all but I sure have a great relationship with a living loving Lord. Anyone that hasn't found this relationship, and I am not saying that you haven't, sure is missing the greatest thing in life and it's even going to get better. I am in perfect health and couldn't feel better but I can honestly say, as did Paul. Philip. 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Don't get me wrong I'm not looking forward to dying but I am looking forward to death because I know what will follow in the next second!! CDBJ |
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5 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 26284 | ||
CDBJ, if you prayed to your pastor, or to me, we might hear you (if you were close enough and prayed loudly enough) and be ever so eager to grant you your petition. But we are totally powerless to answer prayer. And would you not, in praying to us, be in conflict with the command to pray to God? I've never been able to find any passage in Scripture that says that Mary hears and answers prayer any more than that your pastor and I hear and answer prayer. --Hank | ||||||
6 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 26287 | ||
Hi Hank, I call my horizontal conversation speaking! It is only my vertical conversation that I call prayer, so you are out of luck!! Besides all that there is another problem, unless of course you happen to be ubiquitous, how many could you hear at one time? CDBJ | ||||||