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1 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | RoaringLamb | 91025 | ||
Greeting, mommapbs! Thank you for the welcome. Since my note to you, a few people have joined in on the discussion: Morant61 (Tim Moran), gracefull, and MaTT. To save time, I ask you to take a look at those exchanges, as well as those following a question I submitted, "Rapture different from Second Coming?" which is related to this subject. But here's the premise, in a nutshell: It is too late for those who have already died without having professed Christ. They are forever lost and, according to what most Christians - in my experience and by what I've read - believe, they are already burning in hell. Incongruously, most also believe in a "secret" rapture, in which Christ returns to Earth years before what we call "the Second Coming" or "the Glorious Appearing" (although some even differentiate between these as two separate events). Whether we (the saved) understand these things or not has no effect on our salvation, but it is a stumblingblock to many who might believe, in that it contradicts the very gospel we exhort them to believe - that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, that God is love, and that he is willing that none should perish, that he is just, and that he is sovereign. In fact, this has been called by many "The Case Against Christianity"! In Jesus' Name, Jay |
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2 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | EdB | 91032 | ||
Jay I believe Christ did die for the sins of the world. To be saved one must beleive that also, and that is the problem. Many believe 1. They do not need salvation or 2. They can obtain salvation through their own good works. By doing this they then place themselves outside the salvation provided for them by Christ. It was God's desire that they don't perish and made a way of escape, it was their choice to accept it or reject it. Therefore the "Case Against Christianity" isn't much of a case. EdB |
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3 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | RoaringLamb | 91038 | ||
EdB, I never said the "Case Against Christianity" is valid. I'm not attempting to justify unbelief. What I'm saying is that sound doctrine should be taught rather than error. Sound doctrine is more likely to convince the nonbeliever than fables full of contradictions. You and I need no convincing - we already believe. But many who don't believe are hindered by reason. For many who are now converted - such as myself - certain reasonable objections had to be overcome. As I told mommapbs, I have been discussing this extensively elsewhere in this branch and the one I began with the question, "Rapture different from Second Coming?" What I ask is that you respond to what I have already said regarding the accuracy of the teachings. There IS no case against the gospel - the GOOD NEWS that Jesus taught. But the popularly taught fables contradict each other at several points. I am addressing these, point-by-point, and scripture-by-scripture. If we would continue in this manner - rather than trying to fell ideas that challenge cherished beliefs in one swift blow - I think we will all learn from each other. So, please consider the evidence I've presented, enlighten me with yours, and let us seek to come to agreement. Your brother in Christ, RL |
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