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1 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25106 | ||
"... implication was the translators were unaware of their mistake (idiots) ..." The Bible says that if we call someone a fool that we are in danger of hell fire. So, I don't do that. What I did say in my study is (this is the long version) that I don't know of too many people who had (or would) spend two years looking at all of the available literature on two verses. --- "The implication that many commentaries are written purely for monetary gain ..." I wouldn't have made that assumption. --- "... I have always found an argument that depends on the denigration of others to be distasteful, often lacking in substance and therefore lacking in credence." And yet you did. ---- "Lastly you seem to in enjoy falling all over the words “brosei” and “posei”." Nope, just paying attention to two of the words in the text; I then use them as indicators of what the text is talking about vs. what is commonly said about the text. --- "... 2 “what” they were eating was to some a problem and Paul said don’t sweat it. I think we both agree it is the latter and not the former." Try again; I take it you haven't actually read my study. 3rd option (paying attention to ther historical and cultural context as to why Paulwrote in the first place): ascetics were complaining and judging the believers for their feasting _on_ (paying attention to the Greek behind "in regards to") the feast days that are then mentioned. --- "... he was teaching we were no longer under the dietary and ritual laws." The major problem here (recognized by some scholars): there are no drink laws! Here's some of the the relevant sources (note the date on number 9): 8. Bowman, Jr., Robert M. " Samuele Bacchiocchi on Paul and the Sabbath: A Critique of Samuele Bacchiocchi's Treatment of Colossians 2:16 in His Book From Sabbath to Sunday (Pontifical Gregorian University Press, 1977) ," (CRI Statement DB020): page 3. 9. Olshausen, Hermann Biblical Commentary on St. Paul's Epistles to the Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, and Thessalonians. (T. and T. Clark, 1851): page 360. 10. See the practices of the Nazarites and Essenes to which several commentators appeal; for instance, Gill, John (1697-1771) Exposition of the Bible and Bruce, F. F. The Epistles to the Colossians, to Philemon, and to the Ephesians. (Eerdmans, 1984): page 114, and Scott, [ibid., page 51]: he notes that the Nazirites and Rechabites were forbidden to drink wine but that this was also "a special vow and entailed a discipline over and above the Law." 11. O'Brien, Peter "Colossians," Word Biblical Commentary. Vol. 44 (Word Books, 1982): page 138. This fact is also noted by Bruce [ibid., page 114]. 12. Ash [ibid., page 186]; also noted by Vincent, Marvin R. Word Studies in New Testament. Vol. 3 (Charles Scribner's, 1924): page 493. Available online at godrules.net/library/vincent/vincentcol2.htm. |
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2 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25166 | ||
If I read you right I think your implying you spent two years studying these two verses. (re. second paragraph) My brother I think if that is true you need to redirect your energy. There just isn't that much importance contained in those two verses unless your trying to justify a Seventh Day Adventist stance. EdB |
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3 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25187 | ||
I was working too. It isn't like that was the only thing I did. Mind you it takes interlibrary loan two weeks to get new material to me. My studies on the date of the book of Daniel (it was not written in 164 B.C.) and the meaning of the word 'almah in Isa. 7:14 ("virgin") didn't take me quite so long. When I started this study I had no idea what it was all about and in fact, if you read the study carefully you'll see that I _disagree_ with the SDA commentary, Dr's. Bacchiocchi, Paulien and Richardson (I studied under the first two while I was in the seminary). Not bad eh? |
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4 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25241 | ||
Not bad! I applaud you scholarship. However some men have spent more time preparing rebuttals to the SDA and after careful study they reached the conclusion the Sunday worship rather than seventh day worship was the norm in the early church and that Paul in fact was saying what is important was not the day but rather the worship EdB |
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5 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25251 | ||
I prefer to go by Scripture rather than the teachings of men. | ||||||
6 | what is the true worship day sun. or sat | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25259 | ||
So there is no future misunderstandings what are you saying? Do you hold with Sunday worship? Seventh Day Worship? If you recall this all started by you citing a site and my comment that I thought Thomas Shepperds comments on the same site were more convincing that the ones you cited. That is when you said Shepperd was all wrong and the scholarship of Dr. Bacchiocchi's was superior. Now your saying you do not depend on teachings of men but on the scripture. Sir in truth do you know what you believe, or are you just being argumentative? What is your discussing? EdB |
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